WEBVTT e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/38-0 00:00:07.293 --> 00:00:09.573 Ok, happy to introduce Martijn van den Ende. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/47-0 00:00:11.143 --> 00:00:13.636 From the Université Côte d'Azur in southern France. Where he's a e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/47-1 00:00:13.636 --> 00:00:13.943 post-doc e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/50-0 00:00:15.743 --> 00:00:15.823 there as well. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/90-0 00:00:17.463 --> 00:00:21.117 In rock mechanics that tracks university master's and e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/90-1 00:00:21.117 --> 00:00:24.837 bachelors in Urban Sciences, please work on a number of e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/90-2 00:00:24.837 --> 00:00:28.823 topics from Earth made cycle modeling, possible seismology, e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/90-3 00:00:28.823 --> 00:00:32.943 raycasting, and deep learning, which is Helen with this work. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/101-0 00:00:32.943 --> 00:00:37.043 One thing I really appreciate about work is limited to his e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/101-1 00:00:37.043 --> 00:00:38.503 Open Access research. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/114-0 00:00:39.263 --> 00:00:41.912 Umm, so there are number of things in this area, but umm e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/114-1 00:00:41.912 --> 00:00:42.703 also mention two. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/142-0 00:00:42.703 --> 00:00:46.598 The first things most people do is the boundary line in Open e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/142-1 00:00:46.598 --> 00:00:50.365 Access journals seismicode, which has been a global effort e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/142-2 00:00:50.365 --> 00:00:53.303 to have Open Access publishing in seismology. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/160-0 00:00:53.303 --> 00:00:56.933 One cool thing about that is there's the meeting article that e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/160-1 00:00:56.933 --> 00:01:00.387 kind of interests the journals in five of the abstracts in e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/160-2 00:01:00.387 --> 00:01:01.383 languages purely. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/179-0 00:01:03.143 --> 00:01:06.284 Second thing, how to begin this work to run this paper on e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/179-1 00:01:06.284 --> 00:01:09.263 graphical networks is really interested in how did it. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/195-0 00:01:09.263 --> 00:01:12.232 So we'll just get a page and we'll be able to post it the e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/195-1 00:01:12.232 --> 00:01:15.407 full model and training code. So it's easy to see what you're e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/195-2 00:01:15.407 --> 00:01:15.663 done. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/200-0 00:01:16.143 --> 00:01:17.903 So I think that's it. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/207-0 00:01:19.663 --> 00:01:21.743 Posting code kind of full access to. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/237-0 00:01:24.063 --> 00:01:27.936 Service attacked in multiple seismology and just community e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/237-1 00:01:27.936 --> 00:01:31.942 efforts is going to receive the 2024 KA work in about two to e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/237-2 00:01:31.942 --> 00:01:34.503 outstanding early career seismologist. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/244-0 00:01:42.513 --> 00:01:44.353 Us to monitor a number of phenom. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/265-0 00:01:45.983 --> 00:01:50.458 En traffic, aftershock sequences and phenomena, these are folks e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/265-1 00:01:50.458 --> 00:01:54.933 today on potential DAS perfect early in the morning, until this e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/265-2 00:01:54.933 --> 00:01:55.703 talk is EW. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/271-0 00:01:55.703 --> 00:01:58.023 What about the dynamic range so that we get? e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/288-0 00:02:01.043 --> 00:02:04.715 Alright. Well thank you, Tim and thank you also for the e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/288-1 00:02:04.715 --> 00:02:06.683 invitation to to present here. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/308-0 00:02:09.063 --> 00:02:13.445 I would like to begin by introducing you to the Abyss e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/308-1 00:02:13.445 --> 00:02:17.423 team, which hopefully now you can see over here. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/345-0 00:02:19.103 --> 00:02:22.879 So the Abyss project is a project funded by the ERC, which e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/345-1 00:02:22.879 --> 00:02:26.527 is the European Research Council, and the objective, the e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/345-2 00:02:26.527 --> 00:02:30.623 main objective of this project is to monitor mega trust faults. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/348-0 00:02:31.383 --> 00:02:32.703 With fiber optic cables. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/369-0 00:02:34.263 --> 00:02:39.406 And so within this team, led by Diane River, we have Marie, who e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/369-1 00:02:39.406 --> 00:02:43.103 is in charge of data management and transfer. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/381-0 00:02:43.103 --> 00:02:49.223 We have a postdoc, Alastair and Yuqing and PhD student Clara. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/400-0 00:02:50.823 --> 00:02:56.659 And the three sort of main work packages of this project are, e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/400-1 00:02:56.659 --> 00:03:00.143 first of all to detect weak cycling. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/419-0 00:03:01.363 --> 00:03:05.051 Make seismic signals and complement online sizing e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/419-1 00:03:05.051 --> 00:03:08.003 networks with offshore instrumentation. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/424-0 00:03:08.163 --> 00:03:10.003 So that is DAS cables. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/439-0 00:03:10.803 --> 00:03:14.897 The second objective is to monitor the crust for precursory e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/439-1 00:03:14.897 --> 00:03:16.603 seismic velocity changes. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/455-0 00:03:16.883 --> 00:03:21.041 So essentially the preparation phase of large earthquakes and e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/455-1 00:03:21.041 --> 00:03:25.266 the first one that I'm going to talk about today is to develop e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/455-2 00:03:25.266 --> 00:03:25.803 the 1st. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/468-0 00:03:26.583 --> 00:03:30.427 Prototype of offshore Das Earthwake early warning in e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/468-1 00:03:30.427 --> 00:03:30.863 Chile. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/511-0 00:03:32.493 --> 00:03:37.941 So to give you a bit of context of the project, we are situated e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/511-1 00:03:37.941 --> 00:03:43.305 in Chile, so this is the map we are focusing on this rectangle e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/511-2 00:03:43.305 --> 00:03:48.669 over here in the centre of Chile where we have access to three e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/511-3 00:03:48.669 --> 00:03:53.693 offshore dask cables. These sort of red little wires that. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/513-0 00:03:53.693 --> 00:03:53.853 You see here. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/527-0 00:03:55.423 --> 00:03:59.860 These are sensitive 3 up to DAS interrogate units. As you can e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/527-1 00:03:59.860 --> 00:04:00.863 see over here. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/537-0 00:04:01.693 --> 00:04:05.613 For a total of about 450 kilometers. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/559-0 00:04:07.183 --> 00:04:12.040 And the location of the the project is not by accident e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/559-1 00:04:12.040 --> 00:04:16.103 because here we have some major seismic gaps. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/577-0 00:04:16.103 --> 00:04:20.146 So there is a real possibility that within the duration of the e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/577-1 00:04:20.146 --> 00:04:23.933 project there are some large earthquakes occurring in this e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/577-2 00:04:23.933 --> 00:04:24.383 region. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/588-0 00:04:25.983 --> 00:04:29.654 On top of these three permanently installed e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/588-1 00:04:29.654 --> 00:04:30.823 interrogators. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/614-0 00:04:31.503 --> 00:04:35.527 We will also soon have one travelling interrogator that e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/614-1 00:04:35.527 --> 00:04:39.551 moves S to north or back to do temporary deployments to e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/614-2 00:04:39.551 --> 00:04:43.863 characterise local seismicity and and cross off properties. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/638-0 00:04:45.423 --> 00:04:49.276 And off the data that are being generated in this project are e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/638-1 00:04:49.276 --> 00:04:52.446 transferred to France daily with a sort of a daily e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/638-2 00:04:52.446 --> 00:04:54.063 synchronization procedure. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/658-0 00:04:57.213 --> 00:05:02.211 We acquire the data at a special sampling rates of about 15 e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/658-1 00:05:02.211 --> 00:05:06.293 metres and a temporal sampling rate of 62 Hertz. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/697-0 00:05:06.293 --> 00:05:10.797 So if you then work out the maths, that amounts to about 300 e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/697-1 00:05:10.797 --> 00:05:15.302 gigabytes of data per day, or about half a petabytes of data e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/697-2 00:05:15.302 --> 00:05:20.028 over the periods of five years. And so for this, we have plenty e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/697-3 00:05:20.028 --> 00:05:24.163 of storage and processing capacities at zero by zero to e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/697-4 00:05:24.163 --> 00:05:24.533 deal. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/700-0 00:05:24.533 --> 00:05:25.013 With the data. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/730-0 00:05:26.103 --> 00:05:30.416 But on top of the daily transfers that's transferred the e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/730-1 00:05:30.416 --> 00:05:35.336 roll data to France, we also are experimenting with sort of live e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/730-2 00:05:35.336 --> 00:05:36.623 transfer of data. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/757-0 00:05:37.423 --> 00:05:41.028 So for this we have set up a live stream on YouTube, which e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/757-1 00:05:41.028 --> 00:05:44.939 unfortunately doesn't work right now, but hopefully in the near e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/757-2 00:05:44.939 --> 00:05:48.849 future it will work again. But in our office we have actually a e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/757-3 00:05:48.849 --> 00:05:51.783 screen that shows the data coming in real time. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/765-0 00:05:52.583 --> 00:05:55.543 So here we have an earthquake and Marie probably presenting. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/773-0 00:05:56.173 --> 00:05:58.293 The the data coming in in real time. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/797-0 00:05:59.963 --> 00:06:04.561 Now, the reason why we're doing this experimentation with the e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/797-1 00:06:04.561 --> 00:06:08.714 live data transfer is of course to work on the topic of e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/797-2 00:06:08.714 --> 00:06:10.643 earthquake really warning. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/810-0 00:06:12.183 --> 00:06:15.501 And there are lots of advantages of using DAS for earthquake e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/810-1 00:06:15.501 --> 00:06:16.263 early warning. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/841-0 00:06:17.943 --> 00:06:22.185 First of all, we can use DAS to complements sometimes very e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/841-1 00:06:22.185 --> 00:06:26.860 sparse coverage of seismometers. So particularly in the northern e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/841-2 00:06:26.860 --> 00:06:31.103 parts of the region where we're working, we have very few. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/865-0 00:06:31.663 --> 00:06:36.491 Land stations and so the special coverage is very sparse and in e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/865-1 00:06:36.491 --> 00:06:40.263 addition to that we get offshore instrumentation. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/893-0 00:06:40.263 --> 00:06:44.162 So we are closer to the trench and closer to the seasick e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/893-1 00:06:44.162 --> 00:06:48.130 source. We can use existing infrastructures because we're e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/893-2 00:06:48.130 --> 00:06:52.508 using dark fibre here, so we do not have any deployment and and e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/893-3 00:06:52.508 --> 00:06:54.903 maintenance costs related to that. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/907-0 00:06:56.463 --> 00:07:00.924 And lastly, the acquisition and processing of the data takes e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/907-1 00:07:00.924 --> 00:07:01.583 place in. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/917-0 00:07:02.103 --> 00:07:03.743 And earthquake proof environment. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/934-0 00:07:04.063 --> 00:07:08.166 The interrogators are placed in server rooms that serve as e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/934-1 00:07:08.166 --> 00:07:11.783 central hubs for communication in case of disaster. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/949-0 00:07:12.303 --> 00:07:16.554 So they are really designed to withstand even the strongest of e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/949-1 00:07:16.554 --> 00:07:20.063 earthquakes and be operational during those events. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/975-0 00:07:21.623 --> 00:07:26.043 So after setting up the interrogators last year, we were e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/975-1 00:07:26.043 --> 00:07:30.540 sort of hoping between quotes for a magnitude 6 or larger e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/975-2 00:07:30.540 --> 00:07:34.263 earthquake to occur within a five years period. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1004-0 00:07:35.803 --> 00:07:39.799 And so two months later, our prayers were heard and a e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1004-1 00:07:39.799 --> 00:07:43.869 magnitude 6.6 earthquake occurred right at the edge of e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1004-2 00:07:43.869 --> 00:07:47.643 one of the three cables that we are instrumenting. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1008-0 00:07:48.483 --> 00:07:51.043 So here we have the three cables. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1015-0 00:07:51.043 --> 00:07:53.963 That's that we are that are located offshore. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1029-0 00:07:54.683 --> 00:07:57.472 Earthquake was here in the north, and so we have this e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1029-1 00:07:57.472 --> 00:08:00.003 beautiful propagation of the seismic waves from. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1039-0 00:08:00.863 --> 00:08:04.724 North to South here on the slides, we have N on the left e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1039-1 00:08:04.724 --> 00:08:05.063 side. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1044-0 00:08:05.593 --> 00:08:09.313 And South on the right and time is is moving up. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1075-0 00:08:10.863 --> 00:08:15.103 And so this look very promising and this this look like e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1075-1 00:08:15.103 --> 00:08:19.571 fantastic data to try early warning algorithms etcetera on e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1075-2 00:08:19.571 --> 00:08:24.039 and some of the data looked really nice, but unfortunately e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1075-3 00:08:24.039 --> 00:08:26.463 most of the data look like this. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1082-0 00:08:28.143 --> 00:08:29.943 So clearly here something is wrong. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1088-0 00:08:30.143 --> 00:08:32.863 The amplitudes are clips and. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1090-0 00:08:34.423 --> 00:08:34.463 This. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1102-0 00:08:35.273 --> 00:08:38.473 Prompted us to ask a couple of questions on OK. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1114-0 00:08:38.473 --> 00:08:42.473 How feasible is it to use DAS for earthquake warning? e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1142-0 00:08:44.063 --> 00:08:47.613 And so some of the main questions that we had was well, e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1142-1 00:08:47.613 --> 00:08:51.608 why are these DAS measurements, clips or saturated as we as we e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1142-2 00:08:51.608 --> 00:08:52.623 tend to call it? e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1152-0 00:08:53.423 --> 00:08:57.646 And what is the big round displacement or velocity or e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1152-1 00:08:57.646 --> 00:08:58.663 acceleration? e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1168-0 00:09:00.383 --> 00:09:03.728 That that triggers this saturation or other words, what e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1168-1 00:09:03.728 --> 00:09:04.863 is the maximum bgd. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1195-0 00:09:05.783 --> 00:09:11.254 HGV PGA that we can measure with us and be more precisely what is e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1195-1 00:09:11.254 --> 00:09:15.813 the maximum magnitude of an event that we can reliably e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1195-2 00:09:15.813 --> 00:09:17.223 measure with DAS? e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1230-0 00:09:19.183 --> 00:09:22.930 So to answer the first question, that's actually relatively e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1230-1 00:09:22.930 --> 00:09:26.739 straightforward. If you look at the measurement principle of e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1230-2 00:09:26.739 --> 00:09:30.611 DAS, what does measures is the phase of of light or the phase e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1230-3 00:09:30.611 --> 00:09:34.358 difference between consecutive processes of lights that are e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1230-4 00:09:34.358 --> 00:09:34.983 sent down. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1259-0 00:09:35.753 --> 00:09:39.572 An optical fiber and the relation between the face that e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1259-1 00:09:39.572 --> 00:09:43.528 you measure and the sort of length of the trajectory that e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1259-2 00:09:43.528 --> 00:09:46.393 the light follows is a simple linear one. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1279-0 00:09:46.393 --> 00:09:51.377 So here on the left we have the phase diodes by Phi. The e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1279-1 00:09:51.377 --> 00:09:55.313 distance of the light travels here is D and. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1299-0 00:09:56.943 --> 00:10:01.103 The the proportionality constant here in the middle contains the e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1299-1 00:10:01.103 --> 00:10:05.007 refractive index photo as the coefficient and the wavelength e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1299-2 00:10:05.007 --> 00:10:05.583 of light. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1318-0 00:10:07.033 --> 00:10:11.666 And because there's a linear relationship, we can split this e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1318-1 00:10:11.666 --> 00:10:14.553 in a reference phase measurement and. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1329-0 00:10:16.263 --> 00:10:19.303 A deviation or a change in the length of the trajectory. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1336-0 00:10:21.103 --> 00:10:23.303 Now normally we don't want to deal with this reference. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1373-0 00:10:25.263 --> 00:10:29.283 Phase so we can get rid of that by time differentiation and e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1373-1 00:10:29.283 --> 00:10:32.901 likewise we want our measurements to be local, so not e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1373-2 00:10:32.901 --> 00:10:36.921 affected by everything that happens before in the cable and e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1373-3 00:10:36.921 --> 00:10:38.463 we can achieve that by. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1415-0 00:10:39.223 --> 00:10:43.229 Differentiating this relationship in space, and so e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1415-1 00:10:43.229 --> 00:10:48.021 typically what does instrument records, is this quantity the e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1415-2 00:10:48.021 --> 00:10:52.656 gradient of the phase rate, which is still proportional to e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1415-3 00:10:52.656 --> 00:10:57.447 the change in the length of the cable, and so in a way it is e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1415-4 00:10:57.447 --> 00:11:00.983 proportional more or less to the to the STR. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1417-0 00:11:00.983 --> 00:11:01.103 Rate. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1456-0 00:11:04.363 --> 00:11:08.885 Any facial measurement is periodic around ±π, so as a e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1456-1 00:11:08.885 --> 00:11:13.911 result this quantity that we are recording is bounded by by e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1456-2 00:11:13.911 --> 00:11:19.271 divided by Delta T, Delta X and here Delta T is the the rate at e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1456-3 00:11:19.271 --> 00:11:22.203 which you are requiring your data. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1465-0 00:11:22.203 --> 00:11:26.523 So the sampling rate and delta X is the spatial sampling. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1476-0 00:11:28.583 --> 00:11:32.863 And so if we now use this, this sort of upper bound. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1486-0 00:11:33.763 --> 00:11:36.083 Plug it back into the equation as you had on a previous slide. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1499-0 00:11:36.083 --> 00:11:39.658 Then this gives us that we get the maximum strain rate that we e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1499-1 00:11:39.658 --> 00:11:40.283 can record. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1516-0 00:11:41.823 --> 00:11:45.629 Is is given by this relationship which contains this something e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1516-1 00:11:45.629 --> 00:11:47.503 rate and and special something. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1533-0 00:11:49.873 --> 00:11:53.223 And if we plug in some reasonable numbers for the e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1533-1 00:11:53.223 --> 00:11:57.444 wavelength of light and these two parameters together of order e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1533-2 00:11:57.444 --> 00:11:57.713 one. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1535-0 00:11:59.263 --> 00:11:59.303 A. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1550-0 00:11:59.303 --> 00:12:02.279 Times sampling rate of about kilohertz and a special sampling e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1550-1 00:12:02.279 --> 00:12:02.903 of 10 meters. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1558-0 00:12:03.303 --> 00:12:06.771 This gives us a upper bound on the strain rate that we can e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1558-1 00:12:06.771 --> 00:12:07.183 record. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1572-0 00:12:08.783 --> 00:12:12.723 Of around 40 micro strain per second. So micrometer per meter e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1572-1 00:12:12.723 --> 00:12:13.423 per second. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1583-0 00:12:15.143 --> 00:12:18.171 And if we then compare that with our actual measurements, we see e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1583-1 00:12:18.171 --> 00:12:19.383 that it works really well. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1591-0 00:12:20.523 --> 00:12:23.523 So here the values here on the vertical axis. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1612-0 00:12:25.303 --> 00:12:27.933 Denote the strain rate but with lower values because the e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1612-1 00:12:27.933 --> 00:12:30.656 acquisition settings were a bit different than what I just e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1612-2 00:12:30.656 --> 00:12:31.903 plugged into as an example. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1634-0 00:12:32.583 --> 00:12:36.387 But here what we have is actual data from the swell, so the the e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1634-1 00:12:36.387 --> 00:12:38.943 ocean waves that are passing by the cable. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1666-0 00:12:39.223 --> 00:12:43.130 This is nice long period signal and we can see it as soon as it e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1666-1 00:12:43.130 --> 00:12:47.037 hits this dynamic range and then upper limit it's kind of flips e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1666-2 00:12:47.037 --> 00:12:50.823 to the other side and continues and then goes back and so on. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1668-0 00:12:50.823 --> 00:12:51.943 So this is the typical. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1681-0 00:12:53.843 --> 00:12:57.865 Type of saturation that we're getting with with gas data on e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1681-1 00:12:57.865 --> 00:12:58.603 the bottom. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1724-0 00:12:58.603 --> 00:13:01.596 Here we have a vibrating segment, so a segment of of e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1724-1 00:13:01.596 --> 00:13:05.154 cable that is hanging freely in the water column and vibrates. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1724-2 00:13:05.154 --> 00:13:08.373 And these vibrations have increasing amplitude and so as e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1724-3 00:13:08.373 --> 00:13:11.649 soon as these amplitudes hits the dynamic range, we start e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1724-4 00:13:11.649 --> 00:13:13.683 getting very complicated behaviour. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1739-0 00:13:16.473 --> 00:13:21.574 Now, what is this number of 40 microstrane per second really e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1739-1 00:13:21.574 --> 00:13:21.993 mean? e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1769-0 00:13:22.193 --> 00:13:26.164 And because usually work with particle motions like P DRAM e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1769-1 00:13:26.164 --> 00:13:29.933 displacement or P ground acceleration, so we can make a e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1769-2 00:13:29.933 --> 00:13:33.433 conversion using a simple monochromatic oscillator. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1788-0 00:13:34.153 --> 00:13:39.608 So if we have sort of a cosine like wave form with a frequency e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1788-1 00:13:39.608 --> 00:13:42.033 F and a propagation speed C. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1795-0 00:13:42.903 --> 00:13:45.863 And the maximum peak ground displacement a. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1818-0 00:13:46.973 --> 00:13:51.593 Then if we differentiate this expression once in time, once in e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1818-1 00:13:51.593 --> 00:13:55.919 space, then we getting the strain rate that corresponds to e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1818-2 00:13:55.919 --> 00:13:57.093 that oscillator. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1826-0 00:13:57.853 --> 00:14:01.797 And so if we then plug this into the criterion for the dynamic e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1826-1 00:14:01.797 --> 00:14:02.173 range. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1864-0 00:14:03.743 --> 00:14:07.513 Then we get an expression like this and I'm just split it out e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1864-1 00:14:07.513 --> 00:14:11.283 into three components, one that is related to the wave field, e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1864-2 00:14:11.283 --> 00:14:14.932 one that is intrinsic to the fibre and one it is related to e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1864-3 00:14:14.932 --> 00:14:17.183 the acquisition or your instruments. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1907-0 00:14:18.253 --> 00:14:22.871 And so if we again plug in some realistic numbers for this, we e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1907-1 00:14:22.871 --> 00:14:26.317 get a maximum P prime displacement of about 25 e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1907-2 00:14:26.317 --> 00:14:30.862 micrometres, meaning that any P gram displacement larger than e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1907-3 00:14:30.862 --> 00:14:34.821 that would saturate our measurements. And so those of e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1907-4 00:14:34.821 --> 00:14:38.926 you working with earthquake warning will recognize that e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1907-5 00:14:38.926 --> 00:14:39.293 this. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1920-0 00:14:39.293 --> 00:14:42.467 Is a very small number and this would correspond with a very e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1920-1 00:14:42.467 --> 00:14:43.613 small magnitude event. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1922-0 00:14:44.543 --> 00:14:45.303 That is close by. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1934-0 00:14:48.593 --> 00:14:51.513 Now, earthquakes are of course not monochromatic. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1941-0 00:14:51.513 --> 00:14:56.608 They are broadband and the threshold for saturation depends e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1941-1 00:14:56.608 --> 00:14:57.713 on frequency. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1956-0 00:14:59.263 --> 00:15:02.100 Particularly because of this conversion between the strain e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1956-1 00:15:02.100 --> 00:15:03.303 rates to particle motion. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1988-0 00:15:04.983 --> 00:15:08.282 So maybe you know this relationship is not entirely e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1988-1 00:15:08.282 --> 00:15:12.279 accurate for earthquakes, and so one of the objectives that we e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1988-2 00:15:12.279 --> 00:15:16.023 had was to come up with a saturation threshold in terms of e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1988-3 00:15:16.023 --> 00:15:17.863 earthquake source parameters. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/1999-0 00:15:19.483 --> 00:15:22.523 And I will spare you the details, but this is the result. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2009-0 00:15:23.083 --> 00:15:27.331 So this looks very long and complicated, but I'll just break e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2009-1 00:15:27.331 --> 00:15:29.003 it down into small bits. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2029-0 00:15:31.143 --> 00:15:34.983 So on the left here we have the magnitude of an earthquake that e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2029-1 00:15:34.983 --> 00:15:37.143 would cause saturation of our data. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2042-0 00:15:38.693 --> 00:15:41.905 And the components that we have here in this in this e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2042-1 00:15:41.905 --> 00:15:42.693 relationship. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2057-0 00:15:44.303 --> 00:15:46.943 The notes parameters relating to the acquisition. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2076-0 00:15:47.063 --> 00:15:51.643 So the things like the time something rate and the special e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2076-1 00:15:51.643 --> 00:15:56.223 sampling going here, seismic source parameters go in here. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2082-0 00:15:56.223 --> 00:15:58.623 So we have a stress drop and radiation pattern. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2103-0 00:16:00.263 --> 00:16:03.995 We have some parameters related to the propagation in the e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2103-1 00:16:03.995 --> 00:16:08.049 medium, so we have this quality factor for attenuation and the e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2103-2 00:16:08.049 --> 00:16:09.143 shear wave speed. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2112-0 00:16:09.953 --> 00:16:12.818 And finally, we have here component related to the Hyper e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2112-1 00:16:12.818 --> 00:16:13.673 central distance. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2159-0 00:16:15.223 --> 00:16:19.698 So in most cases all the 1st 3 components are simply fixed or e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2159-1 00:16:19.698 --> 00:16:23.524 well approximated by a representative number, and so e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2159-2 00:16:23.524 --> 00:16:27.567 this this equation simply is a relationship between the e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2159-3 00:16:27.567 --> 00:16:31.826 magnitude that would cause saturation in our dash data and e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2159-4 00:16:31.826 --> 00:16:33.703 the hypercentral distance. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2167-0 00:16:35.383 --> 00:16:37.943 And this relationship I plotted over here. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2216-0 00:16:38.743 --> 00:16:43.337 So in this very busy figure we have on the horizontal axis the e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2216-1 00:16:43.337 --> 00:16:47.421 hypercentral distance in kilometers and on the vertical e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2216-2 00:16:47.421 --> 00:16:51.579 axis the magnitudes of the events and this long equation e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2216-3 00:16:51.579 --> 00:16:56.173 that I had on a previous slide is given by this solid or this. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2216-4 00:16:56.173 --> 00:16:58.143 This dashed line over here. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2226-0 00:16:59.103 --> 00:17:03.543 So any earthquake, it has a magnitude that falls above. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2240-0 00:17:04.343 --> 00:17:08.268 This this line would call saturation and any earthquake e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2240-1 00:17:08.268 --> 00:17:11.143 this either far away or has a magnitude. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2251-0 00:17:12.303 --> 00:17:16.648 Plots within this this space below the Black line would not e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2251-1 00:17:16.648 --> 00:17:17.663 saturate data. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2279-0 00:17:19.223 --> 00:17:22.504 Then the colours that you see here are actual measurements, e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2279-1 00:17:22.504 --> 00:17:25.513 because we have lots of earthquakes that were recorded e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2279-2 00:17:25.513 --> 00:17:28.303 at various hyper central distances and magnitudes. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2311-0 00:17:28.503 --> 00:17:33.161 So for each of these events, I took the catalogue magnitude and e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2311-1 00:17:33.161 --> 00:17:37.965 and location and then determined whether a given task measurement e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2311-2 00:17:37.965 --> 00:17:41.023 was saturated or not for this earthquake. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2317-0 00:17:41.863 --> 00:17:42.703 Was not saturated. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2327-0 00:17:42.703 --> 00:17:47.172 I plotted it in green if it was saturated, I plotted it in e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2327-1 00:17:47.172 --> 00:17:47.703 orange. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2353-0 00:17:49.263 --> 00:17:53.177 And so you can see that this criterion that was on the e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2353-1 00:17:53.177 --> 00:17:57.377 previous slide more or less device the data into saturated e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2353-2 00:17:57.377 --> 00:17:58.943 and and non saturated. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2382-0 00:18:00.783 --> 00:18:04.553 Recordings and this is perhaps a bit better to see if we just e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2382-1 00:18:04.553 --> 00:18:08.263 rescale the horizontal axis or transform it to a logarithmic e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2382-2 00:18:08.263 --> 00:18:11.912 scaling, and then we can see nicely that both are large and e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2382-3 00:18:11.912 --> 00:18:12.703 small events. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2389-0 00:18:14.193 --> 00:18:16.513 All the events that plot above these lines. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2402-0 00:18:18.063 --> 00:18:20.894 They are saturated and below the lines they're mostly not e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2402-1 00:18:20.894 --> 00:18:21.383 saturated. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2443-0 00:18:23.143 --> 00:18:26.852 And now if you look a bit more closely at the range of e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2443-1 00:18:26.852 --> 00:18:31.101 distances that are relevant for earthquake related warning. So e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2443-2 00:18:31.101 --> 00:18:35.215 let's say that we take a high percentile distance of, say 50 e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2443-3 00:18:35.215 --> 00:18:39.464 kilometers, then you will see that saturation is predicted and e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2443-4 00:18:39.464 --> 00:18:41.623 also observed to occur for magn. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2445-0 00:18:41.623 --> 00:18:42.743 As small as three. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2484-0 00:18:44.623 --> 00:18:49.096 And so, of course it is really bad news that even for very e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2484-1 00:18:49.096 --> 00:18:53.872 small magnitude earthquakes, we already have saturation of our e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2484-2 00:18:53.872 --> 00:18:58.800 DAS data and what we would like to do is to record correctly the e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2484-3 00:18:58.800 --> 00:19:03.576 wave forms of earthquakes up to magnitude 6 or even larger. So e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2484-4 00:19:03.576 --> 00:19:04.183 we have. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2499-0 00:19:04.183 --> 00:19:07.816 This gap of orders of magnitude in the the dynamic range that we e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2499-1 00:19:07.816 --> 00:19:08.823 are still missing. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2507-0 00:19:11.693 --> 00:19:15.093 O could we potentially fix this in a way? e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2527-0 00:19:16.663 --> 00:19:20.212 Well, first of all, you have to realise that when saturation e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2527-1 00:19:20.212 --> 00:19:23.703 starts, most of the original information is still retained. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2570-0 00:19:24.463 --> 00:19:28.779 So here again we have the example of the the swell, even e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2570-1 00:19:28.779 --> 00:19:33.474 though it starts to saturate the recordings, we can recognise e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2570-2 00:19:33.474 --> 00:19:37.866 most of the swell in in in the recordings here and if you e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2570-3 00:19:37.866 --> 00:19:42.183 calculate the spectrum you will more or less obtain the. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2575-0 00:19:42.863 --> 00:19:44.903 Spectrum for this type of signal. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2595-0 00:19:46.873 --> 00:19:51.102 And so, in a way, we could maybe try some spectral analysis and e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2595-1 00:19:51.102 --> 00:19:55.067 see if we can still extract useful information relevant for e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2595-2 00:19:55.067 --> 00:19:55.993 early warning. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2605-0 00:19:58.413 --> 00:20:01.373 So here is a synthetic example of that. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2629-0 00:20:01.573 --> 00:20:05.363 So this is a simple spectrum on the horizontal axis I have a e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2629-1 00:20:05.363 --> 00:20:07.973 frequency on the vertical axis I have oh. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2656-0 00:20:08.063 --> 00:20:12.264 This is not spectral density, but the spectral amplitude, and e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2656-1 00:20:12.264 --> 00:20:16.602 this is for. So what I do here is I take a a waveform generated e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2656-2 00:20:16.602 --> 00:20:18.703 from a standard prune spectrum. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2703-0 00:20:18.703 --> 00:20:23.342 So the spectrum is given in black in the background and then e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2703-1 00:20:23.342 --> 00:20:28.058 I scale up the amplitude beyond the dynamic range and sort of e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2703-2 00:20:28.058 --> 00:20:33.078 rescale or wrap the signal as if we are recording it with DAS and e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2703-3 00:20:33.078 --> 00:20:37.642 so the spectrum resulting from that is the orange line over e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2703-4 00:20:37.642 --> 00:20:38.023 here. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2705-0 00:20:38.303 --> 00:20:38.463 4. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2745-0 00:20:39.263 --> 00:20:43.773 And so you can see that while most of the original spectrum is e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2745-1 00:20:43.773 --> 00:20:47.998 is is retained, there are some sidelobes that are that are e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2745-2 00:20:47.998 --> 00:20:52.366 forming and the lower and the higher frequencies. But if you e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2745-3 00:20:52.366 --> 00:20:56.948 were to record a spectrum like this, you would still be able to e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2745-4 00:20:56.948 --> 00:20:58.023 recover things. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2754-0 00:20:58.023 --> 00:20:59.903 Like the corner frequency for instance. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2770-0 00:21:01.573 --> 00:21:05.609 And if we then gradually increase this amplitude and then e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2770-1 00:21:05.609 --> 00:21:08.533 do the exercise again, you will see that. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2787-0 00:21:09.063 --> 00:21:13.403 Actually, more of this energy around the peak starts to leak e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2787-1 00:21:13.403 --> 00:21:15.183 away into the side lobes. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2799-0 00:21:15.183 --> 00:21:18.118 So the side lobes become more prominent and the peak, the peak e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2799-1 00:21:18.118 --> 00:21:19.143 becomes a bit smaller. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2845-0 00:21:20.693 --> 00:21:24.864 And so keep doing this for higher and higher amplitudes and e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2845-1 00:21:24.864 --> 00:21:28.688 then you will see that eventually the spectrum that we e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2845-2 00:21:28.688 --> 00:21:33.138 record becomes pretty much flat, which would be indicative of a e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2845-3 00:21:33.138 --> 00:21:37.449 uniform distribution. And so if you were to record a spectrum e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2845-4 00:21:37.449 --> 00:21:39.813 like this, you would not be able. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2848-0 00:21:39.813 --> 00:21:40.853 To recover. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2853-0 00:21:42.123 --> 00:21:43.443 Things like the corner frequency. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2869-0 00:21:46.373 --> 00:21:50.643 Another way to look at this is to look at how close our data e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2869-1 00:21:50.643 --> 00:21:53.093 represents a uniform distribution. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2889-0 00:21:54.053 --> 00:21:58.135 So if you just focus on the bottom left panel over here, e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2889-1 00:21:58.135 --> 00:22:01.573 here are plotted a cumulative density function. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2896-0 00:22:01.613 --> 00:22:04.173 So essentially sort of the integral of a histogram. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2908-0 00:22:05.733 --> 00:22:09.493 Of the the data skills between this case minus and plus one. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2917-0 00:22:11.173 --> 00:22:14.369 In this representation, a uniform distribution would e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2917-1 00:22:14.369 --> 00:22:14.973 simply be. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2926-0 00:22:15.553 --> 00:22:20.113 A straight line, so it is dotted line over here would be what? e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2947-0 00:22:20.113 --> 00:22:24.957 The uniform distribution would give you and initially our data e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2947-1 00:22:24.957 --> 00:22:29.033 is more or less sort of Gaussian in in distribution. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2974-0 00:22:29.033 --> 00:22:33.754 So it's kind of gives you this nice *** shape over here, but as e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2974-1 00:22:33.754 --> 00:22:38.180 the amplitude increases, we gradually get closer and closer e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2974-2 00:22:38.180 --> 00:22:40.393 to this to this diagonal line. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2985-0 00:22:41.173 --> 00:22:45.239 Indicating that our data become more and more close to a uniform e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2985-1 00:22:45.239 --> 00:22:46.053 distribution. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/2991-0 00:22:46.943 --> 00:22:49.023 Losing all useful information. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3005-0 00:22:51.633 --> 00:22:55.299 We can actually measure the distance between our current e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3005-1 00:22:55.299 --> 00:22:57.873 data distribution and that of an ideal. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3009-0 00:22:59.413 --> 00:23:00.533 Uniform distribution. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3019-0 00:23:02.213 --> 00:23:04.533 The metric for this is given over here. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3032-0 00:23:05.093 --> 00:23:08.434 I guess it will not make much sense to you right now, but I e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3032-1 00:23:08.434 --> 00:23:10.773 can assure you that it makes sense to me. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3046-0 00:23:12.693 --> 00:23:17.318 And so when we have wave forms with different degrees of e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3046-1 00:23:17.318 --> 00:23:21.133 saturation, we can use this metric to measure. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3056-0 00:23:21.713 --> 00:23:26.153 How saturated it is O if the data are retty. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3059-0 00:23:26.153 --> 00:23:27.393 Much not saturated. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3083-0 00:23:27.673 --> 00:23:32.458 We have a relatively low metric of value of the metric and as e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3083-1 00:23:32.458 --> 00:23:36.549 the data become more and more saturated, this metric e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3083-2 00:23:36.549 --> 00:23:37.553 approaches 1. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3109-0 00:23:39.093 --> 00:23:43.650 And so basically what I just said is also depicted here is e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3109-1 00:23:43.650 --> 00:23:48.053 figure where we have the amplitude by which the waveform e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3109-2 00:23:48.053 --> 00:23:50.293 exceeds the dynamic range so. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3133-0 00:23:51.543 --> 00:23:55.694 One here indicates dynamic range and then we get here a factor of e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3133-1 00:23:55.694 --> 00:23:59.405 10 a factor hundred a factor of 1000 exceeding the dynamic e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3133-2 00:23:59.405 --> 00:23:59.783 range. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3165-0 00:24:00.463 --> 00:24:04.781 And so if we do that, we can measure how the saturation e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3165-1 00:24:04.781 --> 00:24:09.562 metric changes with increasing amplitude, and we can see that e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3165-2 00:24:09.562 --> 00:24:14.497 up to about a factor 10 or maybe a factor of 20. We could still e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3165-3 00:24:14.497 --> 00:24:15.423 distinguish. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3177-0 00:24:16.573 --> 00:24:20.802 Based on the saturation metric, what the original amplitude has e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3177-1 00:24:20.802 --> 00:24:21.133 been. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3188-0 00:24:22.233 --> 00:24:25.181 So what we do is we just take a particular waveform that is e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3188-1 00:24:25.181 --> 00:24:25.673 saturated. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3216-0 00:24:25.913 --> 00:24:29.465 We compute the saturation metric, which could fall e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3216-1 00:24:29.465 --> 00:24:33.854 somewhere over here, and then the corresponding amplitude that e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3216-2 00:24:33.854 --> 00:24:38.313 causes this kind of saturation would here be, say, a factor 15. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3233-0 00:24:39.853 --> 00:24:44.312 So even though the amplitudes are saturating, they cannot e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3233-1 00:24:44.312 --> 00:24:46.773 increase beyond a certain value. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3250-0 00:24:47.133 --> 00:24:51.125 We could still estimate the original signal amplitudes that e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3250-1 00:24:51.125 --> 00:24:54.053 have caused a certain degree of saturation. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3269-0 00:24:54.973 --> 00:25:00.096 Up to a factor 20 or so, after which this metric itself e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3269-1 00:25:00.096 --> 00:25:03.573 saturates ironically and and plateau. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3287-0 00:25:03.573 --> 00:25:08.823 So we cannot distinguish whether the signal is 20 or 100 or 1000 e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3287-1 00:25:08.823 --> 00:25:11.813 times higher than the dynamic range. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3312-0 00:25:14.973 --> 00:25:19.109 So I kind of want to stop here talking about the dynamic range e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3312-1 00:25:19.109 --> 00:25:23.377 because there is more and let me just check how much time I have e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3312-2 00:25:23.377 --> 00:25:25.413 left. OK. So I still have time. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3341-0 00:25:26.973 --> 00:25:30.920 So as an intermediate conclusion, I just want to know e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3341-1 00:25:30.920 --> 00:25:35.672 give you as a take home message that currently the dynamic range e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3341-2 00:25:35.672 --> 00:25:39.693 of DAS is not sufficient for earthquake early warning. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3353-0 00:25:41.333 --> 00:25:45.344 And possibly we can extend this dynamic range by a factor 10 or e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3353-1 00:25:45.344 --> 00:25:45.533 20. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3382-0 00:25:46.673 --> 00:25:51.441 By analyzing the data in a different way, but it will not e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3382-1 00:25:51.441 --> 00:25:56.046 get us up to the level of recording a magnitude 6 event e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3382-2 00:25:56.046 --> 00:25:59.993 faithfully with typical acquisition parameters. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3436-0 00:26:01.373 --> 00:26:05.984 But we could use DAS together with the online strong motion e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3436-1 00:26:05.984 --> 00:26:10.826 sensors to at least expedite a warning. For instance, we could e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3436-2 00:26:10.826 --> 00:26:15.361 consider locating the seismic event with DAS, which is not e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3436-3 00:26:15.361 --> 00:26:19.819 affected by by saturation because the first arrival is is e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3436-4 00:26:19.819 --> 00:26:22.433 week, and then as soon as the SE. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3447-0 00:26:22.533 --> 00:26:26.018 Waves hits the first strong motion sensor. We can estimate e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3447-1 00:26:26.018 --> 00:26:27.613 the magnitude of the event. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3455-0 00:26:28.393 --> 00:26:31.433 With the single sensor from based on the spectrum. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3470-0 00:26:32.343 --> 00:26:36.755 And then we can already send out an alert, even though only the e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3470-1 00:26:36.755 --> 00:26:39.583 first online station has been triggered. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3495-0 00:26:41.083 --> 00:26:44.633 And clearly there is a need for more technological advances, e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3495-1 00:26:44.633 --> 00:26:48.009 particularly in photonics, to see if we can increase this e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3495-2 00:26:48.009 --> 00:26:50.163 dynamic range in one way or another. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3505-0 00:26:51.993 --> 00:26:54.153 All right, now the second thing I want to talk about. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3538-0 00:26:55.873 --> 00:27:00.045 Is local back projection, so for not necessarily earthquake e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3538-1 00:27:00.045 --> 00:27:03.662 related warning, but particularly for tsunami early e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3538-2 00:27:03.662 --> 00:27:07.626 warning, we need to characterize the rupture in terms of e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3538-3 00:27:07.626 --> 00:27:11.313 magnitude and whether it has a surface break or not. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3544-0 00:27:11.853 --> 00:27:13.413 And the rupture area and things like that. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3562-0 00:27:14.913 --> 00:27:19.023 And for these kind of things, we don't want to wait for Taylor e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3562-1 00:27:19.023 --> 00:27:21.633 seismic W phases to estimate magnitude. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3586-0 00:27:23.473 --> 00:27:28.324 So instead things we can do is do for instance a rapid finite e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3586-1 00:27:28.324 --> 00:27:33.097 fault inversion using the local xorometer network to get the e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3586-2 00:27:33.097 --> 00:27:34.193 finer details. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3597-0 00:27:36.073 --> 00:27:41.129 Or as fine as possible of the rupture. But a second solution e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3597-1 00:27:41.129 --> 00:27:41.793 to this. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3607-0 00:27:42.383 --> 00:27:46.303 To this challenge is using local arrays to do back projection. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3640-0 00:27:47.343 --> 00:27:51.338 So here it is nicely sort of drawn schematically where we e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3640-1 00:27:51.338 --> 00:27:55.196 have an earthquake that is recorded by multiple seismic e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3640-2 00:27:55.196 --> 00:27:59.123 arrays that are then used to back project the signal and e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3640-3 00:27:59.123 --> 00:28:02.223 essentially track the rupture as it evolves. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3673-0 00:28:04.743 --> 00:28:08.931 And I guess that's that's many of you are familiar with data e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3673-1 00:28:08.931 --> 00:28:12.845 seismic back projection where you take Continental scale e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3673-2 00:28:12.845 --> 00:28:16.759 arrays to zoom in and look at relatively large magnitude e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3673-3 00:28:16.759 --> 00:28:17.583 earthquakes. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3687-0 00:28:18.143 --> 00:28:22.244 And this has been very successful in in characterising e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3687-1 00:28:22.244 --> 00:28:24.183 these very large ruptures. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3696-0 00:28:24.503 --> 00:28:28.525 So here's an example from Peru where we could very nicely track e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3696-1 00:28:28.525 --> 00:28:29.343 this rupture. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3711-0 00:28:30.153 --> 00:28:33.851 Propagating in a particular direction, then also identify a e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3711-1 00:28:33.851 --> 00:28:35.393 back propagating rupture. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3714-0 00:28:35.903 --> 00:28:36.703 At the same time. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3756-0 00:28:39.473 --> 00:28:43.704 We can also do this at the local scale. What's very nice about e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3756-1 00:28:43.704 --> 00:28:47.332 that is that local back projection should have a much e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3756-2 00:28:47.332 --> 00:28:51.362 higher resolution because you're much closer to the seasick e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3756-3 00:28:51.362 --> 00:28:54.855 source. But these local waveforms tend to be rather e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3756-4 00:28:54.855 --> 00:28:58.617 messy. Having lots of local scattering and simultaneous e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3756-5 00:28:58.617 --> 00:28:58.953 Arri. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3761-0 00:28:59.153 --> 00:28:59.993 Or phases. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3773-0 00:29:00.633 --> 00:29:03.967 And so it is not very likely that waveform coherence that we e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3773-1 00:29:03.967 --> 00:29:05.553 need for the back projection. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3780-0 00:29:06.353 --> 00:29:08.793 Persists across the scale of an entire array. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3806-0 00:29:09.923 --> 00:29:14.009 So instead we would have to break up the array into locally e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3806-1 00:29:14.009 --> 00:29:17.960 coherent sub arrays and then combine the results of these e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3806-2 00:29:17.960 --> 00:29:21.843 smaller arrays to really focus on the earthquake source. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3819-0 00:29:23.393 --> 00:29:26.313 And this has been the the PhD work of Iiqing. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3831-0 00:29:26.713 --> 00:29:31.593 Who is now a applying these kind of methods on on DAS data? e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3875-0 00:29:34.193 --> 00:29:38.545 And so one of the things that she looked at was, well, how e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3875-1 00:29:38.545 --> 00:29:43.045 feasible is it to actually use an offshore gas cable that is e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3875-2 00:29:43.045 --> 00:29:47.841 not deployed for the purpose of back projection and how how much e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3875-3 00:29:47.841 --> 00:29:52.193 of A details can we extract from the back, back projection e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3875-4 00:29:52.193 --> 00:29:53.153 procedure so. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3902-0 00:29:53.153 --> 00:29:57.191 For this you took one of the the cables that we have in the in e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3902-1 00:29:57.191 --> 00:30:00.909 the region and here is an example for one earthquake here e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3902-2 00:30:00.909 --> 00:30:03.153 to the West of this of this cable. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3916-0 00:30:03.903 --> 00:30:07.094 So you can see this this beautiful move out of this. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3916-1 00:30:07.094 --> 00:30:09.623 This, I think it was a magnitude 4 event. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3923-0 00:30:11.473 --> 00:30:13.993 So the data were not not saturated. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3966-0 00:30:15.793 --> 00:30:20.542 And in order to make this back projection work, she had to do a e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3966-1 00:30:20.542 --> 00:30:24.847 lot of different kinds of processing. And yeah, basically e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3966-2 00:30:24.847 --> 00:30:29.225 apply particular procedure to convert the raw data that we e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3966-3 00:30:29.225 --> 00:30:33.233 record to something that is sufficiently coherent and e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3966-4 00:30:33.233 --> 00:30:33.753 useful. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3969-0 00:30:35.213 --> 00:30:36.413 So some of the steps including. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3996-0 00:30:37.953 --> 00:30:42.170 Converting the strain rates to particle velocity and then e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3996-1 00:30:42.170 --> 00:30:46.750 making corrections for the local settlement layer to make sure e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3996-2 00:30:46.750 --> 00:30:50.895 that any uncertainties in the velocity model are kind of e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/3996-3 00:30:50.895 --> 00:30:51.913 cancelled out. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4033-0 00:30:54.203 --> 00:30:58.863 OK. And so by dividing the entire cable into these local e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4033-1 00:30:58.863 --> 00:31:03.688 sub arrays and then focusing each of these sub arrays onto e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4033-2 00:31:03.688 --> 00:31:09.085 the seismic source, she was able to very nicely focus or identify e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4033-3 00:31:09.085 --> 00:31:12.683 the the origin location of this earthquake. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4046-0 00:31:13.203 --> 00:31:16.724 So here again we have the cable. Each of these triangles e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4046-1 00:31:16.724 --> 00:31:18.083 indicates 1 sub array. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4064-0 00:31:19.233 --> 00:31:22.721 And by by focusing each of them in the right direction, they e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4064-1 00:31:22.721 --> 00:31:25.353 kind of intersect here in the middle, so the. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4073-0 00:31:25.943 --> 00:31:29.470 Brighter colors indicate the strength of the intersection, if e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4073-1 00:31:29.470 --> 00:31:29.983 you will. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4095-0 00:31:31.553 --> 00:31:36.242 And given that this is just a small local earthquake, there is e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4095-1 00:31:36.242 --> 00:31:40.113 no propagation effect that are to be recorded here. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4128-0 00:31:41.833 --> 00:31:45.957 But now what we can do is we can take a whole bunch of these e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4128-1 00:31:45.957 --> 00:31:50.284 small earthquakes and treat them as empirical Green's functions e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4128-2 00:31:50.284 --> 00:31:54.747 to construct a much larger or to simulate a much larger magnitude e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4128-3 00:31:54.747 --> 00:31:55.153 event. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4153-0 00:31:56.243 --> 00:32:00.713 So focusing here on this, this top panel here on the right, our e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4153-1 00:32:00.713 --> 00:32:04.973 cable is now over here where we have these triangles. And So e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4153-2 00:32:04.973 --> 00:32:05.323 what? e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4169-0 00:32:05.523 --> 00:32:10.046 I chain did was taking small earthquakes that are occurring e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4169-1 00:32:10.046 --> 00:32:13.363 in this region and then basically creating. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4195-0 00:32:15.153 --> 00:32:19.388 A line of these, this green function and sort of stacking e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4195-1 00:32:19.388 --> 00:32:23.988 them into a wave form that is recorded by the by the cable and e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4195-2 00:32:23.988 --> 00:32:27.713 then by back projecting those synthetic waveforms. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4215-0 00:32:28.353 --> 00:32:32.690 We were able to very accurately locate the the position and e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4215-1 00:32:32.690 --> 00:32:36.233 timing at which each of these sources is active. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4245-0 00:32:36.833 --> 00:32:40.918 So the stars here indicate the progression of the simulated e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4245-1 00:32:40.918 --> 00:32:45.139 magnitude 7 earthquake and the circles here indicate what you e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4245-2 00:32:45.139 --> 00:32:48.884 would get from back, projecting the wave forms of this e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4245-3 00:32:48.884 --> 00:32:49.633 earthquake. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4266-0 00:32:51.193 --> 00:32:55.289 And what is very nice about this procedure is that a lot of the e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4266-1 00:32:55.289 --> 00:32:59.129 work needs to be done can be done in advance. And so once a e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4266-2 00:32:59.129 --> 00:33:01.433 proper pipeline is set up, you can. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4273-0 00:33:02.273 --> 00:33:05.033 Operate this pipeline in almost in real time. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4312-0 00:33:06.673 --> 00:33:11.585 So with the DAS data coming in and with selective windowing e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4312-1 00:33:11.585 --> 00:33:16.334 would be able to track the rupture almost in in real time e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4312-2 00:33:16.334 --> 00:33:21.492 and especially for tsunami early warning, this would be a very e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4312-3 00:33:21.492 --> 00:33:24.113 useful and valuable tool to use. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4332-0 00:33:27.983 --> 00:33:32.808 And so with that, I just want to give you a little outlook on e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4332-1 00:33:32.808 --> 00:33:35.143 where we want to go from here. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4353-0 00:33:35.903 --> 00:33:40.499 So clearly there is a need for a larger range in order to do e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4353-1 00:33:40.499 --> 00:33:44.343 conventional earthquake related warning with this. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4365-0 00:33:45.063 --> 00:33:49.069 Either that or we need other clever methods to work around e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4365-1 00:33:49.069 --> 00:33:50.903 this limited dynamic range. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4369-0 00:33:51.543 --> 00:33:53.943 For instance, we could think of ways to. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4376-0 00:33:54.713 --> 00:33:56.313 Unwrap the data and try to reconstruct. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4394-0 00:33:57.453 --> 00:34:02.089 The original waveform that's that's turned into a more e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4394-1 00:34:02.089 --> 00:34:05.293 saturated waveform when we record it. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4429-0 00:34:05.853 --> 00:34:09.859 And so we have actually several projects in the pipeline where e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4429-1 00:34:09.859 --> 00:34:13.165 we're trying to use deep learning methods to try to e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4429-2 00:34:13.165 --> 00:34:16.408 recover the original waveform and then do use more e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4429-3 00:34:16.408 --> 00:34:20.097 conventional early warning methods on these reconstructed e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4429-4 00:34:20.097 --> 00:34:20.733 waveforms. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4440-0 00:34:22.193 --> 00:34:25.926 And the 2nd Ave. that we're gonna develop further is trying e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4440-1 00:34:25.926 --> 00:34:26.113 to. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4450-0 00:34:26.663 --> 00:34:30.885 And develop this this real time local back projection pipeline e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4450-1 00:34:30.885 --> 00:34:31.623 and seeing. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4467-0 00:34:33.193 --> 00:34:36.866 How it will work in practice when we have large earthquakes e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4467-1 00:34:36.866 --> 00:34:39.193 that are propagating along the cable? e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4478-0 00:34:40.993 --> 00:34:43.393 And with that, I'd like to thank you for your attention. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4483-0 00:34:52.003 --> 00:34:52.723 Thank you so much. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4491-0 00:34:52.723 --> 00:34:56.826 That was a great talk. We'll start with any questions in the e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4491-1 00:34:56.826 --> 00:34:57.163 room. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4493-0 00:34:57.163 --> 00:34:58.563 We're gonna wrap it. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4499-0 00:35:00.173 --> 00:35:01.333 Anne Marie has a question. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4503-0 00:35:01.333 --> 00:35:03.133 And remember, the mic is behind you, right? e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4508-0 00:35:04.673 --> 00:35:05.433 This is Ann revolte. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4509-0 00:35:05.433 --> 00:35:06.033 Thanks so much. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4516-0 00:35:06.033 --> 00:35:07.353 That was a really clear talk. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4518-0 00:35:07.633 --> 00:35:08.433 I'm just curious. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4522-0 00:35:10.233 --> 00:35:10.833 Your conclusion? e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4564-0 00:35:10.833 --> 00:35:14.470 How how much of your conclusions about the dynamic range are e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4564-1 00:35:14.470 --> 00:35:17.930 dependent on this particular setup? And I don't know much e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4564-2 00:35:17.930 --> 00:35:21.508 about DOS at all, but there's certainly parameters that you e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4564-3 00:35:21.508 --> 00:35:24.907 put in that are specific to something about the cable, I e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4564-4 00:35:24.907 --> 00:35:27.353 guess and or the the attenuation in the. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4568-0 00:35:27.513 --> 00:35:28.753 Region offshore Chile. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4583-0 00:35:30.273 --> 00:35:34.342 Yeah. Well, let me just go back to the very first criterion that e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4583-1 00:35:34.342 --> 00:35:36.033 I had on on the slide here. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4591-0 00:35:37.593 --> 00:35:40.713 So this this criterion that you have over here. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4615-0 00:35:42.393 --> 00:35:45.550 Kind of is is sort of shared by the majority of DAS e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4615-1 00:35:45.550 --> 00:35:49.316 interrogators, at least as far as I can tell, because I'm not e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4615-2 00:35:49.316 --> 00:35:50.713 really a photonics guy. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4634-0 00:35:50.713 --> 00:35:53.593 So I don't know the exact details of how these e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4634-1 00:35:53.593 --> 00:35:57.392 interrogators work, but from what I've gathered by discussing e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4634-2 00:35:57.392 --> 00:35:59.353 with with various manufacturers. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4649-0 00:36:00.763 --> 00:36:03.757 This is would be the relationship that would apply to e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4649-1 00:36:03.757 --> 00:36:05.643 a lot of interrogators out there. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4672-0 00:36:07.233 --> 00:36:10.426 Because this is simply the sort of measurement principle of e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4672-1 00:36:10.426 --> 00:36:13.833 tasks, and that is really just a matter of how you estimate the e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4672-2 00:36:13.833 --> 00:36:14.153 phase. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4686-0 00:36:15.093 --> 00:36:18.758 But using most standard ways of estimating phase, this is what e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4686-1 00:36:18.758 --> 00:36:19.573 you would get. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4711-0 00:36:19.573 --> 00:36:23.881 And So what goes in there is the wavelength of light, which is, e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4711-1 00:36:23.881 --> 00:36:27.853 well, kind of fixed by the the core diameter of the fiber. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4719-0 00:36:28.293 --> 00:36:30.978 And then you have the refractive index and the photodetect e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4719-1 00:36:30.978 --> 00:36:32.253 coefficient that are simply. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4736-0 00:36:33.793 --> 00:36:37.668 Material properties of the fibre and then these two guys here are e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4736-1 00:36:37.668 --> 00:36:39.313 your acquisition parameters. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4749-0 00:36:39.953 --> 00:36:43.698 So if you could go to a very high time, something like very e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4749-1 00:36:43.698 --> 00:36:46.633 high spatial something rate, you could really. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4781-0 00:36:47.333 --> 00:36:52.129 Bump up this dynamic range by a lot, but unfortunately this time e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4781-1 00:36:52.129 --> 00:36:56.556 sampling rate is kind of has like an upper bound by the the e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4781-2 00:36:56.556 --> 00:37:01.131 range of your cable like. The longer you are sensing in terms e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4781-3 00:37:01.131 --> 00:37:05.633 of range, the longer you have to wait for the light to come. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4798-0 00:37:05.633 --> 00:37:09.548 Back and so there is an upper limit to how well I would say a e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4798-1 00:37:09.548 --> 00:37:12.453 lower limit of how small this delta T can be. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4812-0 00:37:13.233 --> 00:37:17.538 And likewise there is a limit on how small your gauge length or e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4812-1 00:37:17.538 --> 00:37:19.153 spatial sampling can be. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4825-0 00:37:19.933 --> 00:37:24.813 And so really there is a bounds to how how large the strain e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4825-1 00:37:24.813 --> 00:37:27.173 rates you can you can record. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4836-0 00:37:31.193 --> 00:37:34.830 Awesome. Thanks. We're having a little bit of static, I think e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4836-1 00:37:34.830 --> 00:37:36.473 from potentially your audio. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4842-0 00:37:37.803 --> 00:37:38.723 Ah, OK. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4855-0 00:37:38.033 --> 00:37:40.950 I'm not sure if there's anything you can check your plug in or e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4855-1 00:37:40.950 --> 00:37:42.433 connection, but we can hear you. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4857-0 00:37:42.303 --> 00:37:42.423 Umm. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4861-0 00:37:42.433 --> 00:37:44.033 But there's just a little bit of background static. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4870-0 00:37:45.463 --> 00:37:47.743 OK, it might be Internet connection. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4877-0 00:37:48.623 --> 00:37:51.103 I'm not hearing anything myself over here so. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4879-0 00:37:51.133 --> 00:37:51.573 OK, OK. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4891-0 00:37:52.093 --> 00:37:54.693 Well, we'll keep going forward, but if it gets worse, I'll, I'll e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4891-1 00:37:54.693 --> 00:37:55.213 let you know. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4890-0 00:37:55.643 --> 00:37:55.923 OK. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4895-0 00:37:56.833 --> 00:37:58.553 So questions in the room. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4903-0 00:38:01.463 --> 00:38:04.223 If not, then we'll go to Ben Brooks again, question. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4907-0 00:38:05.503 --> 00:38:06.383 Can you hear me OK? e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4908-0 00:38:06.883 --> 00:38:07.363 Yes. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4920-0 00:38:08.233 --> 00:38:12.953 Yeah, maybe the static is the the desk saturation possible. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4926-0 00:38:15.633 --> 00:38:16.593 Thanks for thanks. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4941-0 00:38:16.633 --> 00:38:19.975 Really interesting. And as Emory said, really clearly presented e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4941-1 00:38:19.975 --> 00:38:22.273 talk and sorry if this is a silly question. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4963-0 00:38:22.433 --> 00:38:26.208 The slide that you showed where you were detecting the open e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4963-1 00:38:26.208 --> 00:38:30.046 ocean swells moved a little fast for me to see what what the e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4963-2 00:38:30.046 --> 00:38:33.443 periods were, but is there any possibility of tsunami e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4963-3 00:38:33.443 --> 00:38:34.073 detection? e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4981-0 00:38:35.743 --> 00:38:39.166 Yeah, that's very interesting question. And I think there are e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4981-1 00:38:39.166 --> 00:38:41.983 several groups in the world working on that topic. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4999-0 00:38:42.783 --> 00:38:47.698 We actually have a PhD student at Yale who looked at these sort e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/4999-1 00:38:47.698 --> 00:38:50.463 of theoretical feasibility of that. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5034-0 00:38:52.033 --> 00:38:56.238 And then kind of towards the end of his PhD, other people e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5034-1 00:38:56.238 --> 00:39:00.588 actually published the first sort of sightings of a tsunami e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5034-2 00:39:00.588 --> 00:39:04.793 with DAZ, although it's, it was very faint in my opinion. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5047-0 00:39:05.803 --> 00:39:09.762 But certainly if you, especially if you have a shallow cable or e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5047-1 00:39:09.762 --> 00:39:11.123 like in shallow water. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5061-0 00:39:12.673 --> 00:39:16.393 It is quite likely that that you can record a tsunami. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5096-0 00:39:17.713 --> 00:39:21.678 I've also been asked whether that can actually saturate the e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5096-1 00:39:21.678 --> 00:39:25.180 desk recordings which maybe would have been a second e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5096-2 00:39:25.180 --> 00:39:29.079 question you wanted to ask, but that is not very likely to e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5096-3 00:39:29.079 --> 00:39:32.846 happen. So tsunami seem to be sitting in a sort of happy e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5096-4 00:39:32.846 --> 00:39:35.953 medium between being detectable and still not. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5101-0 00:39:36.073 --> 00:39:37.233 Saturating the data. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5106-0 00:39:39.523 --> 00:39:40.203 Yeah, I wonder. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5116-0 00:39:41.003 --> 00:39:43.590 I mean, maybe you could design some kind of match filter, e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5116-1 00:39:43.590 --> 00:39:44.483 something like that. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5123-0 00:39:44.483 --> 00:39:47.723 That might help you with the the seismic aspect of it. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5133-0 00:39:51.193 --> 00:39:53.153 I mean in terms of detection or? e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5162-0 00:39:53.483 --> 00:39:58.283 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if you could potentially use use coincident e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5138-0 00:39:54.793 --> 00:39:54.953 Kind of. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5162-1 00:39:58.283 --> 00:40:02.783 tsunami data or model to feed back into your detection, but e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5162-2 00:40:02.783 --> 00:40:06.683 that might not be useful in the time period of eew. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5167-0 00:40:08.193 --> 00:40:08.633 But maybe. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5187-0 00:40:08.203 --> 00:40:12.123 Yeah, normally you don't want to wait for tsunami to pass by to e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5187-1 00:40:12.123 --> 00:40:14.083 send out an an earthquake alert. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5182-0 00:40:12.203 --> 00:40:12.403 Right. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5201-0 00:40:14.083 --> 00:40:18.331 So I mean it does have to propagate to be detectable over e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5192-0 00:40:15.593 --> 00:40:16.033 Exactly. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5201-1 00:40:18.331 --> 00:40:20.163 by the, by the cable, so. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5229-0 00:40:20.663 --> 00:40:25.125 Just maybe more in terms of just source, you know and and so so e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5215-0 00:40:25.023 --> 00:40:25.903 Yes. Yeah. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5229-1 00:40:25.125 --> 00:40:29.587 near near real time situational awareness instead of instead of e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5229-2 00:40:29.587 --> 00:40:30.703 EW specifically. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5231-0 00:40:31.483 --> 00:40:32.083 Yeah, yeah. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5233-0 00:40:33.793 --> 00:40:34.073 Yes. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5235-0 00:40:34.803 --> 00:40:35.363 No, thank you. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5238-0 00:40:37.103 --> 00:40:38.583 I think Theresa, good question. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5244-0 00:40:41.283 --> 00:40:42.443 Yes, hi. My name. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5251-0 00:40:42.443 --> 00:40:44.163 Thank you so much for your talk. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5259-0 00:40:44.163 --> 00:40:48.483 I'm actually calling in from the DAS SSA Photonics conference. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5268-0 00:40:50.033 --> 00:40:52.033 And so this is very appropriate on brand. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5273-0 00:40:52.713 --> 00:40:53.873 I have a few questions. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5291-0 00:40:53.873 --> 00:40:59.434 One, I think I saw in your map that the cable may be actually e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5291-1 00:40:59.434 --> 00:41:02.753 crossing a fault line. Is that true? e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5309-0 00:41:03.353 --> 00:41:08.327 And if so, or maybe even in any case, are you worried in the e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5309-1 00:41:08.327 --> 00:41:11.753 event of a large earthquake of the cable? e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5311-0 00:41:12.853 --> 00:41:13.813 Breaking. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5333-0 00:41:16.143 --> 00:41:20.197 Well, it's quite likely that there are several smaller faults e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5333-1 00:41:20.197 --> 00:41:23.663 on the sea floor that are either mapped or unmapped. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5354-0 00:41:25.233 --> 00:41:29.712 But these are commercial telecom cables, so these have been sort e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5354-1 00:41:29.712 --> 00:41:32.193 of tried and tested over the years. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5357-0 00:41:32.753 --> 00:41:34.753 So at least over the last few years. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5382-0 00:41:36.393 --> 00:41:39.849 Where there were significant earthquakes but none of them e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5382-1 00:41:39.849 --> 00:41:43.485 managed to actually break the cable, you would have to be, I e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5382-2 00:41:43.485 --> 00:41:45.393 think, pretty unlucky to really. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5394-0 00:41:46.133 --> 00:41:49.173 Snap a cable, but I've heard reports of it happening. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5412-0 00:41:49.173 --> 00:41:52.995 Then there's always a question whether it is the ground sort of e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5412-1 00:41:52.995 --> 00:41:56.699 displacement itself, or like a subsequent submarine landslide e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5412-2 00:41:56.699 --> 00:41:58.133 that that broke it, but. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5436-0 00:41:59.753 --> 00:42:03.478 Yeah. So that might be a possibility. Perhaps in the case e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5436-1 00:42:03.478 --> 00:42:07.524 of a large earthquakes that any submarine landslides will kind e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5436-2 00:42:07.524 --> 00:42:08.873 of destroy the cable. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5458-0 00:42:10.553 --> 00:42:13.845 But hopefully at that point we would have already sort of e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5458-1 00:42:13.845 --> 00:42:17.478 acquired the data and the data should be safe and sound at this e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5458-2 00:42:17.478 --> 00:42:18.273 landing point. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5461-0 00:42:19.383 --> 00:42:20.023 On land. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5466-0 00:42:20.743 --> 00:42:22.223 So we could still do something with it. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5470-0 00:42:24.363 --> 00:42:26.163 And then another question is. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5474-0 00:42:28.273 --> 00:42:30.473 For locations. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5486-0 00:42:32.073 --> 00:42:35.793 How certain are you of the locations of the cables? e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5490-0 00:42:35.793 --> 00:42:38.033 Do they drift about? e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5499-0 00:42:38.193 --> 00:42:42.233 I mean, I I'm sure they're buried to some degree, but then. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5505-0 00:42:43.953 --> 00:42:45.033 Do they migrate at all? e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5519-0 00:42:45.393 --> 00:42:50.373 Are like do the telecom companies even know themselves e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5519-1 00:42:50.373 --> 00:42:53.633 the exact location of these cables? e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5524-0 00:42:55.283 --> 00:42:57.483 How certain are you of their locations? e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5548-0 00:42:59.053 --> 00:43:02.121 Yeah. So the telecom companies are not necessarily certain e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5548-1 00:43:02.121 --> 00:43:05.501 about the location of the cable, but they were certain about the e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5548-2 00:43:05.501 --> 00:43:07.893 location of the boat that deployed the cable. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5560-0 00:43:08.333 --> 00:43:12.146 So what we were given was basically the trajectory of the e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5560-1 00:43:12.146 --> 00:43:14.053 boat that deployed the cable. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5575-0 00:43:15.593 --> 00:43:19.070 With with various parameters like whether the cable was e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5575-1 00:43:19.070 --> 00:43:20.313 trenched or not and. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5579-0 00:43:21.953 --> 00:43:22.913 Yeah. So in these cases. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5589-0 00:43:24.633 --> 00:43:28.433 We have sort of a reasonable grip on where the cable is. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5612-0 00:43:29.753 --> 00:43:33.347 On the orientation, because depending on the amount of slack e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5612-1 00:43:33.347 --> 00:43:36.353 on the cable it could kind of wiggle a little bit. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5657-0 00:43:36.353 --> 00:43:40.630 And so it could be oriented a bit more East or West. And we e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5657-1 00:43:40.630 --> 00:43:45.193 have seen not for these cables, but for other cables in shallow e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5657-2 00:43:45.193 --> 00:43:49.470 water we have seen some ROV footage showing that the cables e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5657-3 00:43:49.470 --> 00:43:54.033 is well, you know it makes loops it, it sort of wiggles around. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5659-0 00:43:54.153 --> 00:43:54.753 It's even. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5670-0 00:43:55.553 --> 00:43:59.722 Managed to get sort of suspend in the air by a chair on the sea e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5670-1 00:43:59.722 --> 00:44:00.113 floor. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5698-0 00:44:01.403 --> 00:44:04.783 So all sorts of weird things happen on the sea floor with the e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5698-1 00:44:04.783 --> 00:44:07.891 cable, but at least the location is sort of more or less e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5698-2 00:44:07.891 --> 00:44:11.163 constrained by the trajectory of the ship that deployed it. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5711-0 00:44:12.713 --> 00:44:15.953 But yeah, it will not be super precise. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5731-0 00:44:15.953 --> 00:44:19.222 So depending on what you want to do, you might have to do a e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5731-1 00:44:19.222 --> 00:44:22.328 survey to actually locate the cable, which could be very e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5731-2 00:44:22.328 --> 00:44:22.873 expensive. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5749-0 00:44:25.783 --> 00:44:31.257 And then one last question, looking at the equation you were e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5749-1 00:44:31.257 --> 00:44:36.103 giving in terms of magnitude and the the propagation. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5751-0 00:44:37.673 --> 00:44:38.233 Term. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5756-0 00:44:43.263 --> 00:44:45.343 Yeah. The that middle term there. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5762-0 00:44:46.913 --> 00:44:48.593 Does that have? Like any? e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5779-0 00:44:48.593 --> 00:44:52.782 Yeah, the propagation medium does that take into account the e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5779-1 00:44:52.782 --> 00:44:55.873 conduit conditions or the burial conditions. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5788-0 00:44:55.873 --> 00:45:00.553 Because I know that can really affect the amplitude. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5795-0 00:45:02.393 --> 00:45:05.273 Of recording of the DAS cable. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5802-0 00:45:07.433 --> 00:45:08.113 So does that. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5807-0 00:45:08.113 --> 00:45:12.393 Is that taken into account in this equation anywhere? e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5814-0 00:45:13.593 --> 00:45:15.673 Yeah, that's that's a that's a really good point. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5831-0 00:45:15.673 --> 00:45:21.518 And you can actually see it in the wave forms a little bit. If e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5831-1 00:45:21.518 --> 00:45:24.673 I go back to the waterfall plots. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5868-0 00:45:24.993 --> 00:45:28.936 Yeah. So you can see here that there seems to be some sort of e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5868-1 00:45:28.936 --> 00:45:32.815 gaps in the recordings these sort of vertical whitish lines, e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5868-2 00:45:32.815 --> 00:45:36.822 those are sections of the cable that are not very well coupled e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5868-3 00:45:36.822 --> 00:45:37.713 to the ground. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5875-0 00:45:37.913 --> 00:45:40.873 And so they record amplitudes at much lower values. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5879-0 00:45:41.673 --> 00:45:42.873 Than well coupled sections. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5883-0 00:45:43.663 --> 00:45:44.863 And this is another. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5887-0 00:45:46.553 --> 00:45:47.433 Avenue to to explore. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5913-0 00:45:49.233 --> 00:45:53.486 Because if these if the coupling coefficient is basically just e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5913-1 00:45:53.486 --> 00:45:57.605 sort of a scalar multiplier that it doesn't affect frequency e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5913-2 00:45:57.605 --> 00:45:58.753 content too much. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5932-0 00:46:00.473 --> 00:46:04.539 And if it is sort of just linear and constant in time, then we e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5932-1 00:46:04.539 --> 00:46:06.153 can actually use this as. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5950-0 00:46:07.753 --> 00:46:11.316 Sections that have sort of an apparently higher dynamic range e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5950-1 00:46:11.316 --> 00:46:14.938 because they simply did records the the wave fields with lower e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5950-2 00:46:14.938 --> 00:46:15.513 amplitude. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/5953-0 00:46:17.403 --> 00:46:17.883 From what? e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/6003-0 00:46:17.963 --> 00:46:22.371 From some initial exploration, we found that the variation in e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/6003-1 00:46:22.371 --> 00:46:26.425 this coupling factors of the order of a factor 10, which e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/6003-2 00:46:26.425 --> 00:46:30.763 sounds like a lot, but because of the logarithmic scaling of e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/6003-3 00:46:30.763 --> 00:46:35.100 magnitudes, it doesn't help that much. In the end, you would e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/6003-4 00:46:35.100 --> 00:46:37.803 really need sections that have a cou. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/6017-0 00:46:38.043 --> 00:46:43.105 Of this, less than essentially maybe like a factor of 1000 or e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/6017-1 00:46:43.105 --> 00:46:45.963 so, in order to faithfully record. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/6020-0 00:46:46.723 --> 00:46:47.043 The wave forms. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/6031-0 00:46:47.533 --> 00:46:50.613 But we actually do have a few of those channels on land. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/6059-0 00:46:50.613 --> 00:46:55.460 So if you look here close to the edge of each of the panels, this e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/6059-1 00:46:55.460 --> 00:47:00.160 is a section that is on land and those sections were not at all e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/6059-2 00:47:00.160 --> 00:47:04.053 saturated. And that gave us this waveform over here. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/6089-0 00:47:05.603 --> 00:47:09.192 So it is possible, but you have to be lucky that certain e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/6089-1 00:47:09.192 --> 00:47:13.348 sections are sufficiently poorly coupled to be able to record the e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/6089-2 00:47:13.348 --> 00:47:15.363 waveform without any distortion. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/6095-0 00:47:15.363 --> 00:47:18.963 And then there's the question, do you really record the wave? e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/6107-0 00:47:19.533 --> 00:47:23.773 Form properly? Or is there like other factors involved? e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/6100-0 00:47:19.933 --> 00:47:21.213 So OK. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/6112-0 00:47:26.623 --> 00:47:27.423 Thank you so much. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/6114-0 00:47:27.423 --> 00:47:28.743 I've really enjoyed your talk. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/6116-0 00:47:29.533 --> 00:47:30.053 No, thank you. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/6123-0 00:47:32.353 --> 00:47:35.313 OK. Questions. Any more questions in the room? e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/6133-0 00:47:36.883 --> 00:47:39.763 Everybody. And I'm not seeing any more questions online. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/6134-0 00:47:39.763 --> 00:47:40.963 Last chance, anybody? e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/6142-0 00:47:43.213 --> 00:47:45.835 OK, then let's go ahead and take Martian one more time for his e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/6142-1 00:47:45.835 --> 00:47:46.293 great talk. e1a6d0f5-c720-4206-b6ae-9c1973856016/6147-0 00:47:50.503 --> 00:47:51.823 And you was a pleasure to be there.