WEBVTT 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/665-0 00:00:06.760 --> 00:00:07.820 According to testing. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/674-0 00:00:10.570 --> 00:00:13.040 Alright, folks, welcome. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/691-0 00:00:13.330 --> 00:00:16.836 I thank you all for attending the earthquake Science seminar 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/691-1 00:00:16.836 --> 00:00:17.640 weekly series. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/696-0 00:00:17.790 --> 00:00:18.960 If you're new, welcome. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/713-0 00:00:19.070 --> 00:00:22.291 If you'd like to be added to the email distribution group, please 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/713-1 00:00:22.291 --> 00:00:23.120 send us an email. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/719-0 00:00:23.930 --> 00:00:25.400 Seminars are recorded mostly. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/740-0 00:00:25.410 --> 00:00:29.163 I'll talks or posted on the USGS Earthquake Science Center web 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4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/865-0 00:00:49.000 --> 00:00:52.814 First, we'd like to congratulate the USGS earthquake Science 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/865-1 00:00:52.814 --> 00:00:56.439 Center doctor, Brian Atwater, scientist emeritus, who was 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/865-2 00:00:56.439 --> 00:01:00.127 honored as the 2023 Marcus Milling, legendary geoscientist 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/865-3 00:01:00.127 --> 00:01:02.690 by the American Geoscientists Institute. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/902-0 00:01:02.700 --> 00:01:05.853 AGI the Marcus Milling, legendary geoscientist metal is 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/902-1 00:01:05.853 --> 00:01:09.005 a lifetime achievement award given in recognition of an 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/902-2 00:01:09.005 --> 00:01:12.045 individual's high quality, basic, and applied science 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/902-3 00:01:12.045 --> 00:01:14.240 science achievements in Earth science. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/906-0 00:01:14.430 --> 00:01:15.380 Way to go, Brian. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/911-0 00:01:15.390 --> 00:01:16.110 Thank you. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/920-0 00:01:16.470 --> 00:01:19.660 To read more, look at the intake you newsletter. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/929-0 00:01:22.690 --> 00:01:24.520 Tomorrow is the ESC. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/931-0 00:01:24.530 --> 00:01:25.520 All hands meeting. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/935-0 00:01:25.570 --> 00:01:25.800 Uh. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/946-0 00:01:25.810 --> 00:01:28.420 See your inbox or teams calendar for the link. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/961-0 00:01:29.470 --> 00:01:33.935 Uh, next week there are two special seminars on Monday and 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/961-1 00:01:33.935 --> 00:01:34.540 Tuesday. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/988-0 00:01:34.810 --> 00:01:38.992 On Monday, August 21st, Catherine Materna will be giving 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/988-1 00:01:38.992 --> 00:01:43.613 a talk titled faults that Slip slowly, quickly or somewhere in 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/988-2 00:01:43.613 --> 00:01:44.200 between. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1004-0 00:01:44.210 --> 00:01:47.416 Understanding the spectrum of slip behavior on California's 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1004-1 00:01:47.416 --> 00:01:49.820 faults from space geodesy, that's on Monday. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1038-0 00:01:49.830 --> 00:01:53.247 On Tuesday, Catherine Guns from Scripps Institution of 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1038-1 00:01:53.247 --> 00:01:56.974 Oceanography will be giving a talk titled investigating the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1038-2 00:01:56.974 --> 00:01:58.900 earthquake cycle in California. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1055-0 00:01:59.460 --> 00:02:03.589 GPS and INSAR data sets, so we should look forward to those are 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1055-1 00:02:03.589 --> 00:02:04.750 both can be great. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1066-0 00:02:04.990 --> 00:02:07.850 Umm additional announcements for this week. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1088-0 00:02:07.860 --> 00:02:11.429 The student presentations, the final presentations for the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1088-1 00:02:11.429 --> 00:02:15.300 summer are this Thursday at one in this room from one to three. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1115-0 00:02:15.310 --> 00:02:19.512 Please tune into that and then also next week because we have 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1115-1 00:02:19.512 --> 00:02:23.578 special seminars on Monday and Tuesday, we are coordinating 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1115-2 00:02:23.578 --> 00:02:24.730 with the speaker. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1125-0 00:02:24.970 --> 00:02:26.720 There may or may not postpone. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1149-0 00:02:26.730 --> 00:02:29.805 We wanna make sure that their audience is maximized as well, 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1149-1 00:02:29.805 --> 00:02:31.620 so we will keep you posted on that. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1165-0 00:02:32.010 --> 00:02:35.072 In the meantime, I'd like to bring up Anne Marie to introduce 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1165-1 00:02:35.072 --> 00:02:35.960 our speaker, Jess. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1179-0 00:02:41.660 --> 00:02:44.902 Alright, well, it's my pleasure really to introduce Jess Marie 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1179-1 00:02:44.902 --> 00:02:45.210 today. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1204-0 00:02:45.220 --> 00:02:48.717 And probably many of you know Jess and have worked with much 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1204-1 00:02:48.717 --> 00:02:50.150 more closely than I have. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1214-0 00:02:50.160 --> 00:02:52.190 But it's really it's always nice to be here. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1256-0 00:02:52.370 --> 00:02:56.126 And so Jess and got her undergrad at Dartmouth and went 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1256-1 00:02:56.126 --> 00:03:00.285 on to Stanford for Masters and PhD, and then came to the USGS 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1256-2 00:03:00.285 --> 00:03:03.370 as the men and Hall, and has been here since. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1291-0 00:03:03.960 --> 00:03:07.634 Yes, and has been a huge contributor as you can see from 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1291-1 00:03:07.634 --> 00:03:11.823 the number of collaborators she has simply on this talk, she led 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1291-2 00:03:11.823 --> 00:03:13.370 the deformation project. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1318-0 00:03:13.380 --> 00:03:18.335 She was the GPS crystal string task leader and most recently is 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1318-1 00:03:18.335 --> 00:03:22.360 the JAVADOC coordinator for and shackler import HP. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1343-0 00:03:22.430 --> 00:03:26.368 I think for Shingler, OK, and so she's worked on many projects in 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1343-1 00:03:26.368 --> 00:03:27.620 her time at the USGS. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1361-0 00:03:27.890 --> 00:03:30.092 Most recently, I've gotten to work with Jess on some of the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1361-1 00:03:30.092 --> 00:03:31.560 work that she's gonna talk about today. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1406-0 00:03:31.900 --> 00:03:35.170 Looking at shake alert and trying to incorporate GNSS and 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1406-1 00:03:35.170 --> 00:03:38.440 Jess has more recently gotten interested in ground motion 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1406-2 00:03:38.440 --> 00:03:41.766 modeling, which has been really really fun and and so it's 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1406-3 00:03:41.766 --> 00:03:43.400 really fun to work with Josh. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1451-0 00:03:43.410 --> 00:03:46.981 She's really dedicated, very detailed, oriented and just 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1451-1 00:03:46.981 --> 00:03:50.928 works incredibly fast, so it's gonna be sure to be a good talk 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1451-2 00:03:50.928 --> 00:03:54.688 today and she has been leading this huge effort recently to 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1451-3 00:03:54.688 --> 00:03:56.880 incorporate GNSS into Shake alert. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1484-0 00:03:56.890 --> 00:04:00.413 So this is the culmination or an update perhaps on where that 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1484-1 00:04:00.413 --> 00:04:03.822 stands and you can see all the collaborators that have been 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1484-2 00:04:03.822 --> 00:04:04.560 working hard. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1492-0 00:04:04.910 --> 00:04:07.590 So, thanks so much, Jess. Henry. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1504-0 00:04:09.160 --> 00:04:12.310 OK, so it's my pleasure to to speak today. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1533-0 00:04:12.320 --> 00:04:15.555 It's been a long time since I've been given a seminar in this 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1533-1 00:04:15.555 --> 00:04:17.590 series, so this is kind of fun for me. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1564-0 00:04:18.020 --> 00:04:22.230 As Emery said, I'll be talking about how we're including real 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1564-1 00:04:22.230 --> 00:04:26.508 time GNSS data and the models that can be derived from them in 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1564-2 00:04:26.508 --> 00:04:28.070 the Shake alert system. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1594-0 00:04:28.160 --> 00:04:31.742 And there are a lot of people involved in this effort in 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1594-1 00:04:31.742 --> 00:04:34.570 various parts of what I'll be showing today. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1604-0 00:04:34.580 --> 00:04:37.770 And they're listed down here at the bottom. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1609-0 00:04:38.960 --> 00:04:39.990 Anti uh. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1645-0 00:04:40.080 --> 00:04:43.768 None of this could have been done without the help of all 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1645-1 00:04:43.768 --> 00:04:47.774 these people, so I think many of you know about scheduler, but 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1645-2 00:04:47.774 --> 00:04:49.300 maybe not everyone does. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1674-0 00:04:49.310 --> 00:04:53.474 So Sheckler is an earthquake early warning system that's 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1674-1 00:04:53.474 --> 00:04:57.711 aiming to alert users who will experience MI 6 or greater 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1674-2 00:04:57.711 --> 00:05:00.340 shaking for magnitude 5 or greater. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1697-0 00:05:00.350 --> 00:05:04.284 Earthquakes in California, Oregon and Washington before the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1697-1 00:05:04.284 --> 00:05:08.415 shaking reaches them and also aims to minimize alerts to users 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1697-2 00:05:08.415 --> 00:05:10.250 who experience weak shaking. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1755-0 00:05:10.680 --> 00:05:15.715 So there's a balance there that the system needs to to find and 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1755-1 00:05:15.715 --> 00:05:20.434 and the way it does this is to and come up with a real time 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1755-2 00:05:20.434 --> 00:05:25.311 source model and use that to calculate the anticipated ground 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1755-3 00:05:25.311 --> 00:05:29.874 motion using GMP's and ground motion intensity conversion 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1755-4 00:05:29.874 --> 00:05:30.660 equations. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1876-0 00:05:30.670 --> 00:05:35.449 In an example is shown in the maps here, the left hand map 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1876-1 00:05:35.449 --> 00:05:40.308 shows the anss location is the black circle and the chiclet 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1876-2 00:05:40.308 --> 00:05:45.167 location of a small earthquake that happened last fall, and 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1876-3 00:05:45.167 --> 00:05:50.269 then this cyan Polygon around it is the extent of the MI three 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1876-4 00:05:50.269 --> 00:05:55.128 felt shaking on the right is what shake alert generated, so 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1876-5 00:05:55.128 --> 00:05:59.906 the polygons that you see here are alert regions that were 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1876-6 00:05:59.906 --> 00:06:04.604 generated from the real time source models, and these are 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1876-7 00:06:04.604 --> 00:06:09.301 then used by various alert providers such as the wireless 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1876-8 00:06:09.301 --> 00:06:14.322 emergency alert system and to distribute the shake alerts and 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1876-9 00:06:14.322 --> 00:06:19.100 those are distributed based on some threshold for warning. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1895-0 00:06:19.150 --> 00:06:22.895 For example, everyone within the MMI for region would receive an 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1895-1 00:06:22.895 --> 00:06:23.240 alert. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1959-0 00:06:25.370 --> 00:06:29.445 So currently the production system is using two algorithms 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1959-1 00:06:29.445 --> 00:06:33.520 based on seismic data and the first of these epic uses the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1959-2 00:06:33.520 --> 00:06:37.111 amplitude of the peak displacement during the first 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1959-3 00:06:37.111 --> 00:06:41.048 few seconds of the P wave and uses that and it's scaling 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1959-4 00:06:41.048 --> 00:06:45.122 relationship to get magnitude treating the earthquake as a 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1959-5 00:06:45.122 --> 00:06:46.020 point source. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1988-0 00:06:46.070 --> 00:06:49.053 And because it's using very little data at the very 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1988-1 00:06:49.053 --> 00:06:52.150 beginning of the earthquake, it's known to experience 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/1988-2 00:06:52.150 --> 00:06:54.960 magnitude saturation beyond about a magnitude 7. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2056-0 00:06:55.850 --> 00:06:59.895 The other algorithm is called Finder and it converts the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2056-1 00:06:59.895 --> 00:07:04.224 observed high frequency ground motion to a binary map that's 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2056-2 00:07:04.224 --> 00:07:08.411 then correlated with a library of precomputed templates in 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2056-3 00:07:08.411 --> 00:07:12.881 order to get the location, the length and the orientation of a 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2056-4 00:07:12.881 --> 00:07:16.926 line source, and then the magnitude is obtained from the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2056-5 00:07:16.926 --> 00:07:20.900 line source via magnitude length scaling relationships. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2097-0 00:07:21.330 --> 00:07:25.239 So those both produce magnitude estimates that are then combined 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2097-1 00:07:25.239 --> 00:07:29.028 by a third algorithm, which is called the solution aggregator, 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2097-2 00:07:29.028 --> 00:07:32.936 which does a weighted average of those where the weighting based 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2097-3 00:07:32.936 --> 00:07:34.740 on the reported uncertainties. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2112-0 00:07:37.230 --> 00:07:40.840 So the talk that I'm giving today has two parts to it. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2146-0 00:07:40.850 --> 00:07:44.645 The first part is I'm going to describe how we've been 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2146-1 00:07:44.645 --> 00:07:48.854 incorporating a method based on real time GNSS data that can 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2146-2 00:07:48.854 --> 00:07:51.890 provide non saturating magnitude estimates. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2172-0 00:07:52.900 --> 00:07:56.927 And the second part is going to explore the potential 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2172-1 00:07:56.927 --> 00:08:01.624 contribution that real time GNSS based distributed slip models 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2172-2 00:08:01.624 --> 00:08:04.010 might make to improved alerting. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2190-0 00:08:06.490 --> 00:08:12.310 So in the first part and to obtain non saturating magnitude 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2190-1 00:08:12.310 --> 00:08:13.280 estimates. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2212-0 00:08:13.890 --> 00:08:17.089 What we're using is the peak ground displacement that's 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2212-1 00:08:17.089 --> 00:08:18.460 computed from GNSS data. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2243-0 00:08:18.470 --> 00:08:23.308 So the GNSS, UMM, system can record the the ongoing ground 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2243-1 00:08:23.308 --> 00:08:28.638 motion during an earthquake and some examples are shown here for 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2243-2 00:08:28.638 --> 00:08:30.770 the Ridgecrest main shock. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2341-0 00:08:30.840 --> 00:08:35.009 The north and East components and you can see the displacement 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2341-1 00:08:35.009 --> 00:08:39.111 at a number of GNSS stations that were in the region and then 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2341-2 00:08:39.111 --> 00:08:42.948 that information is then used to compute the total ground 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2341-3 00:08:42.948 --> 00:08:46.587 displacement, which is just the the vector norm of the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2341-4 00:08:46.587 --> 00:08:50.094 horizontal of the three component displacements as a 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2341-5 00:08:50.094 --> 00:08:53.997 function of time during that earthquake and the peak round 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2341-6 00:08:53.997 --> 00:08:57.570 displacement is then the maximum of that total ground 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2341-7 00:08:57.570 --> 00:09:01.606 displacement from the origin time of the earthquake up until 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2341-8 00:09:01.606 --> 00:09:04.980 whatever observation, observation, epic you're at. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2357-0 00:09:04.990 --> 00:09:08.252 So these figures on the right show some examples from 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2357-1 00:09:08.252 --> 00:09:09.580 different earthquakes. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2409-0 00:09:09.850 --> 00:09:14.014 These stations were all about 100 kilometers from the source, 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2409-1 00:09:14.014 --> 00:09:18.311 but because of the size of the earthquake, the the rupture that 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2409-2 00:09:18.311 --> 00:09:22.474 happened the the displacement seem different and you can also 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2409-3 00:09:22.474 --> 00:09:26.570 note that the Y scales are quite different for the different 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2409-4 00:09:26.570 --> 00:09:27.040 events. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2472-0 00:09:28.710 --> 00:09:33.197 So Brendan Crawl and others developed a magnitude scaling 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2472-1 00:09:33.197 --> 00:09:38.071 relationship that relates the peak ground displacement and the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2472-2 00:09:38.071 --> 00:09:42.945 distance from the station to the source to obtain a magnitude, 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2472-3 00:09:42.945 --> 00:09:46.968 and this is one part of an earthquake early warning 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2472-4 00:09:46.968 --> 00:09:51.300 algorithm called G Fast which uses real time GNSS data. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2499-0 00:09:51.410 --> 00:09:55.351 It also includes two other modules which do a fast CMT 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2499-1 00:09:55.351 --> 00:09:58.790 solution as well as umm distributed slip model. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2521-0 00:09:58.800 --> 00:10:02.531 But today I'm just focusing on the part of Gefest that uses the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2521-1 00:10:02.531 --> 00:10:05.270 peak ground displacement to compute magnitude. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2608-0 00:10:05.860 --> 00:10:10.695 So the bottom figure here shows the scaling relationship for 33 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2608-1 00:10:10.695 --> 00:10:15.606 earthquakes from magnitude 6 to 9.1, and this is from a study by 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2608-2 00:10:15.606 --> 00:10:20.290 Goldberg and others who used this expanded data set to update 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2608-3 00:10:20.290 --> 00:10:24.672 the coefficients that were derived initially by crawl and 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2608-4 00:10:24.672 --> 00:10:29.356 others and have an example of an application of this that was 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2608-5 00:10:29.356 --> 00:10:33.058 done in a near real time implementation that was 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2608-6 00:10:33.058 --> 00:10:34.720 incorporated onto you. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2681-0 00:10:34.730 --> 00:10:38.821 Incorporated onto you navco's web pages is shown here for the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2681-1 00:10:38.821 --> 00:10:43.043 two largest earthquakes of the Ridgecrest sequence, and So what 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2681-2 00:10:43.043 --> 00:10:47.067 you're seeing is on the X axis time since the origin time of 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2681-3 00:10:47.067 --> 00:10:51.157 the earthquake, and then the magnitude estimate which evolves 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2681-4 00:10:51.157 --> 00:10:55.314 with time as more data come in and each of the great traces is 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2681-5 00:10:55.314 --> 00:10:58.810 the magnitude determined just from a single station. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2683-0 00:10:58.820 --> 00:10:59.240 Station. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2710-0 00:10:59.690 --> 00:11:04.048 But the black heavier trace is the best fitting magnitude from 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2710-1 00:11:04.048 --> 00:11:08.060 all the data that are available at each time step in the. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2796-0 00:11:08.070 --> 00:11:11.596 The Little Cross is marked the first data point for each 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2796-1 00:11:11.596 --> 00:11:15.370 station, so the reason that we're particularly interested in 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2796-2 00:11:15.370 --> 00:11:19.329 incorporating this approach into Sheckler is that it offers non 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2796-3 00:11:19.329 --> 00:11:22.916 saturating magnitude estimates for magnitude 7 or greater 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2796-4 00:11:22.916 --> 00:11:26.257 earthquakes and this is important, especially when we 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2796-5 00:11:26.257 --> 00:11:30.216 think about the Cascadia region where we anticipate that in the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2796-6 00:11:30.216 --> 00:11:34.113 future there may be very large earthquakes and we want to make 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2796-7 00:11:34.113 --> 00:11:37.020 sure that we get accurate magnitude estimates. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2822-0 00:11:38.730 --> 00:11:43.733 So it's it's been a long process and I was just trying to think 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2822-1 00:11:43.733 --> 00:11:46.860 of how long we've been working on this. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2825-0 00:11:46.870 --> 00:11:47.680 It's been a while. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2851-0 00:11:48.050 --> 00:11:53.474 A few years probably towards integrating this algorithm into 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2851-1 00:11:53.474 --> 00:11:57.920 shake alert for in the future of production used. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2873-0 00:11:57.930 --> 00:12:01.892 So basically these are some of the steps that that were 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2873-1 00:12:01.892 --> 00:12:03.660 required in this process. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2911-0 00:12:03.670 --> 00:12:07.252 We had to connect first the real time data streams from the GNSS 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2911-1 00:12:07.252 --> 00:12:10.338 stations that are in shakers boundaries to at first the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2911-2 00:12:10.338 --> 00:12:13.258 development system and ultimately we've done that to 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2911-3 00:12:13.258 --> 00:12:14.470 the production system. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2985-0 00:12:15.990 --> 00:12:19.447 We prepared a test suite consisting of Genesis S data in 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2985-1 00:12:19.447 --> 00:12:23.207 the corresponding seismic data for a number of real events in 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2985-2 00:12:23.207 --> 00:12:26.725 the US and Japan, and then we implemented this G fast PGD 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2985-3 00:12:26.725 --> 00:12:30.121 algorithm first in the development system in a way that 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2985-4 00:12:30.121 --> 00:12:34.003 allowed it to run jointly with the seismic algorithms, which is 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/2985-5 00:12:34.003 --> 00:12:37.520 what was required to actually test it in a realistic way. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3028-0 00:12:37.670 --> 00:12:41.488 So it has two modes real time mode where it's ingesting the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3028-1 00:12:41.488 --> 00:12:45.307 position time series that are coming in all the time and it 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3028-2 00:12:45.307 --> 00:12:49.125 this is triggered by the seismic portion of the Shake Alert 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3028-3 00:12:49.125 --> 00:12:49.570 system. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3052-0 00:12:50.060 --> 00:12:53.581 And there's also a replay mode, which allows the retrospective 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3052-1 00:12:53.581 --> 00:12:56.430 analysis of the historic events in the test suite. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3131-0 00:12:57.310 --> 00:13:01.721 And in sort of the facts of it was developing a methodology for 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3131-1 00:13:01.721 --> 00:13:05.512 combining the magnitude estimates that come from the G 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3131-2 00:13:05.512 --> 00:13:09.717 fast algorithm with those from the other algorithms and that 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3131-3 00:13:09.717 --> 00:13:13.576 required estimating the uncertainty of those magnitudes 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3131-4 00:13:13.576 --> 00:13:17.574 that could be used in the weighted average and developing 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3131-5 00:13:17.574 --> 00:13:21.571 logic that would determine when the chief asked magnitude 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3131-6 00:13:21.571 --> 00:13:25.362 estimates would actually be passed on to this solution 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3131-7 00:13:25.362 --> 00:13:26.120 aggregator. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3180-0 00:13:26.130 --> 00:13:31.216 And I'm enabling that solution aggregator algorithm to actually 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3180-1 00:13:31.216 --> 00:13:36.302 use all the data to all the the source magnitudes together, and 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3180-2 00:13:36.302 --> 00:13:41.228 then we carried out three plays of the test suite data and it 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3180-3 00:13:41.228 --> 00:13:46.155 with all the algorithms running together and fine tune things 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3180-4 00:13:46.155 --> 00:13:46.870 that way. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3225-0 00:13:46.880 --> 00:13:50.801 So these last several bullets are what I'll be talking about 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3225-1 00:13:50.801 --> 00:13:54.594 today and ultimately at the end of all this process, we've 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3225-2 00:13:54.594 --> 00:13:58.001 submitted the code for the formal system testing and 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3225-3 00:13:58.001 --> 00:14:00.700 performance evaluation, which is ongoing. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3283-0 00:14:02.410 --> 00:14:07.585 So it turns out that in order to properly use real time DNS data 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3283-1 00:14:07.585 --> 00:14:12.601 for earthquake early warning, you actually need to think a lot 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3283-2 00:14:12.601 --> 00:14:17.457 about the noise characteristics of the data, and this figure 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3283-3 00:14:17.457 --> 00:14:22.233 shows a zooming in from longer time periods into short time 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3283-4 00:14:22.233 --> 00:14:22.870 periods. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3388-0 00:14:23.790 --> 00:14:28.109 Some of the characteristics of noise that are is seen in in the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3388-1 00:14:28.109 --> 00:14:32.090 GNSS data, and in particular you'll see that the real time 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3388-2 00:14:32.090 --> 00:14:36.544 Genos time series can have large outliers as well as time varying 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3388-3 00:14:36.544 --> 00:14:40.188 noise due to a variety of factors including satellite 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3388-4 00:14:40.188 --> 00:14:43.292 clock errors and failed ambiguity resolution, 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3388-5 00:14:43.292 --> 00:14:47.679 atmospheric effects, multipath, and all of these are things that 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3388-6 00:14:47.679 --> 00:14:51.997 are affecting the processing of the data that takes it from the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3388-7 00:14:51.997 --> 00:14:56.181 raw measurements to positions and focusing in on time periods 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3388-8 00:14:56.181 --> 00:14:59.420 that are relevant for earthquake early warning. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3424-0 00:14:59.430 --> 00:15:03.519 You can see that there's, uh colored noise in the data that 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3424-1 00:15:03.519 --> 00:15:07.744 causes the position to drift with time, and that's evident in 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3424-2 00:15:07.744 --> 00:15:09.720 in these example time series. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3505-0 00:15:09.730 --> 00:15:14.145 You can also see by looking at the how about ballistic power 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3505-1 00:15:14.145 --> 00:15:18.631 spectral density, which is shown in the bottom plots that the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3505-2 00:15:18.631 --> 00:15:23.191 noise level increases with time, particularly over this period 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3505-3 00:15:23.191 --> 00:15:27.388 from 10 to about 60 seconds, which is of course period of 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3505-4 00:15:27.388 --> 00:15:31.296 that we're particularly interested in for earthquake, 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3505-5 00:15:31.296 --> 00:15:35.421 early warning and so this is something that we needed to 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3505-6 00:15:35.421 --> 00:15:39.690 account for when incorporating these data into the system. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3562-0 00:15:41.250 --> 00:15:45.092 So as you can imagine, since at each time step following an 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3562-1 00:15:45.092 --> 00:15:49.126 earthquake origin time the peak displacement is calculated and 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3562-2 00:15:49.126 --> 00:15:52.904 within that window from the origin time to the observation 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3562-3 00:15:52.904 --> 00:15:56.106 time, this drift in the positions accumulates and 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3562-4 00:15:56.106 --> 00:15:59.884 generally causes the peak ground displacement estimates to 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3562-5 00:15:59.884 --> 00:16:01.100 increase with time. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3614-0 00:16:02.400 --> 00:16:06.886 And so we when about exploring how this was going to affect the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3614-1 00:16:06.886 --> 00:16:11.021 magnitude estimates by looking at real time data that were 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3614-2 00:16:11.021 --> 00:16:15.227 collected at the GNSS stations in the Shaklee region, which 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3614-3 00:16:15.227 --> 00:16:18.240 were shown in this map is the red circles. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3618-0 00:16:19.300 --> 00:16:20.420 And then what we did was? 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3656-0 00:16:20.480 --> 00:16:25.063 Those to find a a grid of hypothetical epicenters across 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3656-1 00:16:25.063 --> 00:16:30.128 the Shake Alert region and it temporal spacing of hypothetical 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3656-2 00:16:30.128 --> 00:16:34.228 origin times and each combination of epicenter and 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3656-3 00:16:34.228 --> 00:16:34.790 origin. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3682-0 00:16:34.800 --> 00:16:38.356 Time defined a hypothetical earthquake that might happen 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3682-1 00:16:38.356 --> 00:16:41.787 within the Shake Alert region, and from those we could 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3682-2 00:16:41.787 --> 00:16:42.410 calculate. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3709-0 00:16:42.420 --> 00:16:45.777 Then the the peak ground displacement from the actual 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3709-1 00:16:45.777 --> 00:16:49.258 real time data that were recorded in the absence of any 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3709-2 00:16:49.258 --> 00:16:51.060 genus detectable earthquakes. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3754-0 00:16:51.070 --> 00:16:54.776 So these are time series of noise only and we can calculate 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3754-1 00:16:54.776 --> 00:16:58.359 the peak ground displacements and also the magnitude that 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3754-2 00:16:58.359 --> 00:17:01.941 would be derived from them at any time step following the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3754-3 00:17:01.941 --> 00:17:02.620 earthquake. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3794-0 00:17:03.950 --> 00:17:09.209 And So what we found was looking at the PGD estimates that with 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3794-1 00:17:09.209 --> 00:17:14.303 increasing time after the origin time going from 203050 to 90 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3794-2 00:17:14.303 --> 00:17:19.479 seconds, we we saw that the peak ground displacement generally 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3794-3 00:17:19.479 --> 00:17:20.300 increased. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3821-0 00:17:20.310 --> 00:17:24.897 So what you're seeing in these histograms is the daily 99th 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3821-1 00:17:24.897 --> 00:17:29.560 percentile PGD calculated from these noise only time series. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3851-0 00:17:30.110 --> 00:17:33.834 And then as you might imagine, the magnitudes that were 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3851-1 00:17:33.834 --> 00:17:38.155 calculated from these tended to also drift to larger values with 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3851-2 00:17:38.155 --> 00:17:39.950 time passed the earthquake. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3885-0 00:17:39.960 --> 00:17:44.107 So essentially what you're seeing in this lower figure is 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3885-1 00:17:44.107 --> 00:17:48.396 the magnitude estimates obtained from these noise only time 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3885-2 00:17:48.396 --> 00:17:53.043 series at different time windows following a hypothetical origin 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3885-3 00:17:53.043 --> 00:17:53.400 time. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3947-0 00:17:53.670 --> 00:17:57.506 And so, for example, with 20 seconds following the origin 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3947-1 00:17:57.506 --> 00:18:01.541 time just based on noise, you're gonna end up with magnitude 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3947-2 00:18:01.541 --> 00:18:05.443 estimates that are in the in mid 6 range often, and so the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3947-3 00:18:05.443 --> 00:18:09.412 minimum reliable magnitude estimate is increasing with time 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3947-4 00:18:09.412 --> 00:18:13.248 since the origin time and this underpins our strategy for 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/3947-5 00:18:13.248 --> 00:18:16.290 incorporating the algorithm into shake alert. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4000-0 00:18:17.550 --> 00:18:21.461 So we developed a strategy for doing this, which is spelled out 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4000-1 00:18:21.461 --> 00:18:25.371 in a paper that came out earlier this year and was described in 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4000-2 00:18:25.371 --> 00:18:29.098 this paper's essentially the framework that's being used now 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4000-3 00:18:29.098 --> 00:18:32.703 in the testing system, with a few modifications that we've 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4000-4 00:18:32.703 --> 00:18:33.680 made since then. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4011-0 00:18:33.850 --> 00:18:35.560 But I'll summarize it here. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4045-0 00:18:35.570 --> 00:18:39.062 So as a reminder, the solution aggregator is computing a 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4045-1 00:18:39.062 --> 00:18:42.555 weighted average of the magnitudes that it receives from 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4045-2 00:18:42.555 --> 00:18:45.740 whatever algorithms contributed a given time stuff. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4065-0 00:18:45.750 --> 00:18:49.181 So that would be potentially up to three algorithms up big 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4065-1 00:18:49.181 --> 00:18:50.460 Finder and cheap fast. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4081-0 00:18:51.320 --> 00:18:55.584 And I think it's important to remember that Jeff has just is 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4081-1 00:18:55.584 --> 00:18:58.310 triggered by the solution aggregators. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4096-0 00:18:58.320 --> 00:19:01.550 So it does not try to detect the earthquakes itself. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4123-0 00:19:01.600 --> 00:19:05.896 It, but once the seismic portion of the system has determined the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4123-1 00:19:05.896 --> 00:19:08.890 intake is happening, then G fast can kick in. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4173-0 00:19:08.900 --> 00:19:12.965 So it's triggered when there's seismic evidence of an ongoing 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4173-1 00:19:12.965 --> 00:19:16.243 earthquake, and it can contribute to the solution 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4173-2 00:19:16.243 --> 00:19:19.651 aggregator if the solution aggregators sizmek based 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4173-3 00:19:19.651 --> 00:19:23.454 magnitude is at least six and pretty fast magnitude is at 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4173-4 00:19:23.454 --> 00:19:24.240 least seven. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4187-0 00:19:24.250 --> 00:19:28.480 So really we're using G fast to focus on the large events. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4193-0 00:19:28.490 --> 00:19:30.730 That's where we think it can contribute. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4228-0 00:19:31.560 --> 00:19:36.451 Uh, we're using the filter that eliminates noisy data based on 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4228-1 00:19:36.451 --> 00:19:41.418 the reported GNSS position and certainties that come out of the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4228-2 00:19:41.418 --> 00:19:42.660 data processing. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4297-0 00:19:42.910 --> 00:19:47.733 So that prevents data that are likely to be not reliable from 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4297-1 00:19:47.733 --> 00:19:51.777 ever getting into the calculation, and then we have 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4297-2 00:19:51.777 --> 00:19:56.366 two what we call throttling criteria, which are that the G 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4297-3 00:19:56.366 --> 00:20:00.799 fast PGD algorithm only sends magnitude estimate to this 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4297-4 00:20:00.799 --> 00:20:05.544 solution aggregator if at least three stations within G fast 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4297-5 00:20:05.544 --> 00:20:08.810 travel time radius have enough dissenter. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4403-0 00:20:08.820 --> 00:20:13.154 Have PGD observed that is at least a threshold value where 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4403-1 00:20:13.154 --> 00:20:17.782 that threshold is time varying in based on the analysis of the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4403-2 00:20:17.782 --> 00:20:22.190 noise time series that I was showing earlier and the second 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4403-3 00:20:22.190 --> 00:20:26.818 criteria is that the estimated uncertainty on the magnitude is 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4403-4 00:20:26.818 --> 00:20:31.593 less than half a magnitude unit and when when PGD is included in 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4403-5 00:20:31.593 --> 00:20:36.368 the in the solution aggregator, it's weighted by its uncertainty 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4403-6 00:20:36.368 --> 00:20:40.849 which decreases with increasing magnitude and increases with 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4403-7 00:20:40.849 --> 00:20:45.183 time since the earthquake because of how we saw that those 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4403-8 00:20:45.183 --> 00:20:49.370 magnitude estimates will tend to drift higher with time. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4439-0 00:20:50.360 --> 00:20:54.334 So just to reiterate the message throttling parameters, the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4439-1 00:20:54.334 --> 00:20:58.043 thresholds in the magnitude uncertainty are empirically 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4439-2 00:20:58.043 --> 00:21:02.348 derived through analysis of the effect of GNSS time series noise 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4439-3 00:21:02.348 --> 00:21:03.540 on the magnitudes. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4464-0 00:21:05.430 --> 00:21:11.033 So as I mentioned earlier, we're now in the formal testing phase 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4464-1 00:21:11.033 --> 00:21:12.240 of G fast PGD. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4475-0 00:21:12.250 --> 00:21:16.220 As in incorporated into the Shake Alert system. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4506-0 00:21:16.230 --> 00:21:20.254 And so this is running on test servers and once that's done, if 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4506-1 00:21:20.254 --> 00:21:23.900 the IT shows that it improves the system then it would be 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4506-2 00:21:23.900 --> 00:21:26.100 included in the production system. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4539-0 00:21:26.550 --> 00:21:30.782 So this testing started in February and it has sort of two 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4539-1 00:21:30.782 --> 00:21:34.870 components to it, real time operation and also replay of 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4539-2 00:21:34.870 --> 00:21:37.380 data from the historic test suite. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4569-0 00:21:38.100 --> 00:21:41.795 So this figure is summarizing what we've observed with the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4569-1 00:21:41.795 --> 00:21:43.360 real time implementation. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4638-0 00:21:43.780 --> 00:21:47.202 And this is from a A the an instance running on the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4638-1 00:21:47.202 --> 00:21:51.151 development system, but using the same settings as what are 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4638-2 00:21:51.151 --> 00:21:54.770 being used in the the test system, but the development 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4638-3 00:21:54.770 --> 00:21:58.916 system has results that go back in time further, so I chose to 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4638-4 00:21:58.916 --> 00:22:03.128 show this one and the top plot shows the number of triggers per 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4628-0 00:22:00.670 --> 00:22:02.890 Next Tuesday. Ohh. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4638-5 00:22:03.128 --> 00:22:07.010 day that Gefasst was receiving from the seismic algorithm. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4678-0 00:22:07.020 --> 00:22:10.834 So for example, on the day of the Ferndale earthquake, as as 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4678-1 00:22:10.834 --> 00:22:14.898 you might imagine, there were a lot of triggers and occasionally 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4678-2 00:22:14.898 --> 00:22:18.650 there are other days where maybe there was a small swarm or 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4678-3 00:22:18.650 --> 00:22:19.900 something like that. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4699-0 00:22:19.910 --> 00:22:22.624 So there are some days that have quite a few triggers, others 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4699-1 00:22:22.624 --> 00:22:23.630 that have not too many. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4722-0 00:22:25.720 --> 00:22:31.375 The middle plot is showing how gene fast message throttling 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4722-1 00:22:31.375 --> 00:22:37.030 criteria affected what was sent to the solution aggregator. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4774-0 00:22:37.040 --> 00:22:40.209 So every time that she faced was triggered, then it needed to 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4774-1 00:22:40.209 --> 00:22:43.174 meet those two criteria of having at least three stations 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4774-2 00:22:43.174 --> 00:22:45.423 with observed ground displacement exceeding 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4774-3 00:22:45.423 --> 00:22:48.591 thresholds and then having a magnitude estimate that was less 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4774-4 00:22:48.591 --> 00:22:49.460 than half a unit. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4797-0 00:22:49.830 --> 00:22:55.898 And so the days said, had some events where either of those 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4797-1 00:22:55.898 --> 00:22:59.640 were those two criteria were evaded. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4821-0 00:22:59.650 --> 00:23:03.289 Essentially, I've shown with the green Fern for magnitude 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4821-1 00:23:03.289 --> 00:23:06.300 uncertainty and the blue for the PGD threshold. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4833-0 00:23:06.590 --> 00:23:13.440 With the this Y axis indicating how many seconds. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4844-0 00:23:13.450 --> 00:23:15.380 Basically, how many time steps had that? 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4856-0 00:23:15.520 --> 00:23:19.703 And then there were three times where both of those criteria 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4856-1 00:23:19.703 --> 00:23:20.320 were met. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4899-0 00:23:20.330 --> 00:23:23.676 So there were no times when actually PGD magnitude 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4899-1 00:23:23.676 --> 00:23:27.612 instrument was sent on to the solution anchor Gator because 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4899-2 00:23:27.612 --> 00:23:31.482 they the solution aggregator itself did not think that the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4899-3 00:23:31.482 --> 00:23:34.040 earthquake was at least a magnitude 6. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4926-0 00:23:34.050 --> 00:23:38.391 We don't want too fast to send its magnitude estimate, which 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4926-1 00:23:38.391 --> 00:23:40.170 may be just due to noise. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4951-0 00:23:40.530 --> 00:23:44.128 Then you have 6 1/2 if the size being part of the system thinks 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4951-1 00:23:44.128 --> 00:23:45.140 it's only a 3 1/2. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4966-0 00:23:45.150 --> 00:23:50.580 So so that criteria prevented these ones from being sent in. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4996-0 00:23:51.170 --> 00:23:55.549 The other thing I would point out is that we did, based on the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4996-1 00:23:55.549 --> 00:23:59.650 results of the very earliest real time testing, adjust the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/4996-2 00:23:59.650 --> 00:24:01.040 throttling criteria. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5032-0 00:24:01.050 --> 00:24:05.003 So you see a lot of times early on when it was exceeding the PGD 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5032-1 00:24:05.003 --> 00:24:08.651 threshold and then we adjusted those parameters at the time 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5032-2 00:24:08.651 --> 00:24:09.320 shown here. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5064-0 00:24:09.670 --> 00:24:14.735 And finally, just have is another piece of of information, 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5064-1 00:24:14.735 --> 00:24:20.316 and the bottom you're seeing the number of stations per day that 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5064-2 00:24:20.316 --> 00:24:22.290 had any amount of data. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5077-0 00:24:22.840 --> 00:24:26.647 Who that exceeded the uncertainty threshold that's 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5077-1 00:24:26.647 --> 00:24:28.140 applied to the data. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5120-0 00:24:28.150 --> 00:24:32.314 So these are the the data that would be filtered out and you 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5120-1 00:24:32.314 --> 00:24:36.274 can see that for example, on these days where we had some 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5120-2 00:24:36.274 --> 00:24:40.165 cases where the magnitude estimate was exceeding some of 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5120-3 00:24:40.165 --> 00:24:41.120 the throttles. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5167-0 00:24:41.130 --> 00:24:44.489 It are days when there happened to be a lot of noisy data, so 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5167-1 00:24:44.489 --> 00:24:47.630 these these data were weeded out, but it would not be and 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5167-2 00:24:47.630 --> 00:24:50.609 expected that there would be other data that maybe had 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5167-3 00:24:50.609 --> 00:24:52.180 slightly lower uncertainties. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5188-0 00:24:52.190 --> 00:24:56.834 But we're still not reliable, so that's what we have been seeing 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5188-1 00:24:56.834 --> 00:24:58.620 in the real time testing. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5223-0 00:24:58.630 --> 00:25:02.459 And I think the important things to point out, however, that no 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5223-1 00:25:02.459 --> 00:25:05.689 erroneous magnitudes have been passed to the solution 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5223-2 00:25:05.689 --> 00:25:08.560 aggregator with the criteria that we've set up. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5244-0 00:25:09.250 --> 00:25:13.091 Umm, there were very few instances where both the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5244-1 00:25:13.091 --> 00:25:16.240 throttling criteria where evaded and it. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5287-0 00:25:16.290 --> 00:25:21.050 It's interesting to note that no magnitude was reported for the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5287-1 00:25:21.050 --> 00:25:25.661 Ferndale earthquake, and that was as expected, because that's 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5287-2 00:25:25.661 --> 00:25:30.421 really within sort at the limit of what's reliable to report on 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5287-3 00:25:30.421 --> 00:25:32.280 using the G fast systems. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5353-0 00:25:32.290 --> 00:25:36.681 So umm, the other thing I would point out is that we had we did 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5353-1 00:25:36.681 --> 00:25:41.071 notice in the real time testing that one thing that can lead to 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5353-2 00:25:41.071 --> 00:25:45.393 potentially to overlearning is when steps are excursions occur 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5353-3 00:25:45.393 --> 00:25:49.509 in the GPS time series and is often has to do with problems 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5353-4 00:25:49.509 --> 00:25:53.350 with the clock corrections that are used in processing. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5423-0 00:25:53.360 --> 00:25:56.657 So Central Washington University, who processes the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5423-1 00:25:56.657 --> 00:26:00.652 data, are developing a real time binary data quality flag that 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5423-2 00:26:00.652 --> 00:26:04.456 would, umm, take information that's known to the processing 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5423-3 00:26:04.456 --> 00:26:08.641 software about things like clock corrections, satellite elevation 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5423-4 00:26:08.641 --> 00:26:12.573 angles, things like this, and use that to weed out data which 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5423-5 00:26:12.573 --> 00:26:16.440 we think will also mitigate the potential for over alerting. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5434-0 00:26:17.740 --> 00:26:20.290 So that's looking at the real time results. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5492-0 00:26:20.560 --> 00:26:24.597 It's also interesting to look at replaying data for past events 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5492-1 00:26:24.597 --> 00:26:28.445 in a simulated real time mode, so I'll show you some results 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5492-2 00:26:28.445 --> 00:26:32.293 from the paper that came out earlier this year and these are 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5492-3 00:26:32.293 --> 00:26:36.014 historic events that are also being run through the formal 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5492-4 00:26:36.014 --> 00:26:36.960 testing system. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5519-0 00:26:37.810 --> 00:26:40.170 But the results that I'm showing you here are the ones from the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5519-1 00:26:40.170 --> 00:26:42.160 paper with the settings that were used in that paper. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5553-0 00:26:42.220 --> 00:26:46.611 So and so the size we can gain access data are replayed 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5553-1 00:26:46.611 --> 00:26:51.316 simultaneously in a simulated real time mode and that makes 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5553-2 00:26:51.316 --> 00:26:53.590 them run through epic Finder. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5600-0 00:26:54.040 --> 00:26:58.398 The solution aggregator in G Fast PGD all running together 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5600-1 00:26:58.398 --> 00:27:02.239 jointly and as I've already discussed, the solution 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5600-2 00:27:02.239 --> 00:27:06.449 aggregator was modified to include G fests magnitude and 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5600-3 00:27:06.449 --> 00:27:10.438 the GEFEST algorithm is triggered by the the solution 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5600-4 00:27:10.438 --> 00:27:11.250 aggregator. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5647-0 00:27:11.840 --> 00:27:15.828 So let's start with an example from Kumamoto, which I was a 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5647-1 00:27:15.828 --> 00:27:19.949 magnitude 7 earthquake and I'll I'll explain this plan detail 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5647-2 00:27:19.949 --> 00:27:23.670 because you'll see similar ones in the next few slides. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5781-0 00:27:23.680 --> 00:27:28.284 So basically what we're seeing here is the time past origin 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5781-1 00:27:28.284 --> 00:27:33.118 time and the estimated magnitude from the different algorithms 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5781-2 00:27:33.118 --> 00:27:38.029 and the shaded regions are the reported uncertainties from each 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5781-3 00:27:38.029 --> 00:27:42.709 algorithm and the two there are two versions of the solution 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5781-4 00:27:42.709 --> 00:27:47.159 aggregator that are shown, one that is what's the current 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5781-5 00:27:47.159 --> 00:27:51.916 production system with no G, fast included and then the black 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5781-6 00:27:51.916 --> 00:27:56.674 dots, which are what, what it would be if you included G fast 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5781-7 00:27:56.674 --> 00:28:01.201 and so uh in this case what where you can see if you stare 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5781-8 00:28:01.201 --> 00:28:05.497 at it for a bit is that these blue boxes are the D fast 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5781-9 00:28:05.497 --> 00:28:10.101 magnitude and it's magnitude never really got as high as it 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5781-10 00:28:10.101 --> 00:28:13.170 should to match the observed magnitude. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5790-0 00:28:13.410 --> 00:28:18.080 The the Nic magnitude and so when. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5826-0 00:28:18.150 --> 00:28:22.761 So in fact, although finders magnitude estimates started out 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5826-1 00:28:22.761 --> 00:28:27.448 low, eventually a climbed up to what was close to the correct 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5826-2 00:28:27.448 --> 00:28:31.606 value, and in this case, including GST was not helpful 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5826-3 00:28:31.606 --> 00:28:32.210 because. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5845-0 00:28:34.480 --> 00:28:37.594 Because it was lower, it actually pulled the solution 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5845-1 00:28:37.594 --> 00:28:39.670 aggregator magnitude estimate down. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5891-0 00:28:39.840 --> 00:28:43.447 So this would be an example where this this earthquake is 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5891-1 00:28:43.447 --> 00:28:47.177 probably on the low end of what we would want to be fast to 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5891-2 00:28:47.177 --> 00:28:50.535 contribute to, and in this particular case it was not 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5891-3 00:28:50.535 --> 00:28:51.840 improving the system. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5903-0 00:28:53.090 --> 00:28:57.060 However, we applied it then to the Ridgecrest main shock. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5953-0 00:28:57.070 --> 00:29:02.125 So 7.1 and here you can see this is a similar kind of plot and 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5953-1 00:29:02.125 --> 00:29:07.340 the blue squares again are the G fast magnitude estimates and in 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5953-2 00:29:07.340 --> 00:29:12.154 this case they reached a level closer to the true magnitude 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5953-3 00:29:12.154 --> 00:29:14.160 sooner than did find her. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5982-0 00:29:14.170 --> 00:29:19.351 So they actually increased the solution aggregator magnitude 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5982-1 00:29:19.351 --> 00:29:24.531 compared to what it would have been without having it having 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/5982-2 00:29:24.531 --> 00:29:25.380 breakfast. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6011-0 00:29:25.390 --> 00:29:29.662 And this system and what you're seeing on the right is that how 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6011-1 00:29:29.662 --> 00:29:33.266 does that translate into the alerting region for that 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6011-2 00:29:33.266 --> 00:29:34.000 earthquake? 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6030-0 00:29:34.010 --> 00:29:40.204 So for example, the red polygons are what would be based only on 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6030-1 00:29:40.204 --> 00:29:40.680 epic. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6053-0 00:29:40.990 --> 00:29:44.720 The green would be based on Finder etcetera. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6075-0 00:29:44.780 --> 00:29:49.612 And because this solution aggregator updates its magnitude 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6075-1 00:29:49.612 --> 00:29:54.444 in sort of 1 cadence and G fast in, in another, they don't 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6075-2 00:29:54.444 --> 00:29:57.310 necessarily update simultaneously. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6113-0 00:29:57.320 --> 00:30:01.359 So you're seeing here that the solution aggregator and Finder 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6113-1 00:30:01.359 --> 00:30:05.333 are essentially the same, and that's because and just by the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6113-2 00:30:05.333 --> 00:30:08.850 timing of the the 2G fast versus solution aggregator. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6146-0 00:30:08.860 --> 00:30:12.976 What's plotted here is the first time step at which gefest 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6146-1 00:30:12.976 --> 00:30:16.883 provided a non throttled magnitude estimate and at that 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6146-2 00:30:16.883 --> 00:30:20.650 point the solution aggregator hadn't quite caught up. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6189-0 00:30:21.020 --> 00:30:24.689 But you can see that if we had waited another second and 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6189-1 00:30:24.689 --> 00:30:28.679 plotted this one, it would be much more similar to G Fest and 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6189-2 00:30:28.679 --> 00:30:32.604 would have alerted a somewhat larger area in this particular 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6189-3 00:30:32.604 --> 00:30:32.990 event. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6202-0 00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:37.100 So and so those first two were crustal earthquakes. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6221-0 00:30:37.110 --> 00:30:40.669 The other two I want to talk about are subduction zone, 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6221-1 00:30:40.669 --> 00:30:42.130 megathrust earthquakes. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6241-0 00:30:42.140 --> 00:30:46.543 And again, I would say this is more where we think that G Fest 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6241-1 00:30:46.543 --> 00:30:48.570 could really be most helpful. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6271-0 00:30:48.940 --> 00:30:54.052 And so this is the Tohoku earthquake, and you can see here 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6271-1 00:30:54.052 --> 00:30:59.510 that Epic was not able to get anywhere near to this magnitude. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6295-0 00:30:59.520 --> 00:31:04.232 And Finder slowly climbed up, but once and GT fast started 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6295-1 00:31:04.232 --> 00:31:08.703 reporting magnitudes, it immediately was much closer to 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6295-2 00:31:08.703 --> 00:31:10.220 the true magnitude. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6359-0 00:31:10.230 --> 00:31:15.132 So when it became included in the solution aggregator, that 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6359-1 00:31:15.132 --> 00:31:20.197 magnitude estimate jumped up and so you can see then that the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6359-2 00:31:20.197 --> 00:31:25.588 solution aggregator polygons are much larger, recover larger area 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6359-3 00:31:25.588 --> 00:31:30.653 and more accurately alert people who felt shaking compared to 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6359-4 00:31:30.653 --> 00:31:35.555 what was available with Just Finder, which are the green or 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6359-5 00:31:35.555 --> 00:31:37.760 certainly compared to epic. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6411-0 00:31:37.810 --> 00:31:42.037 So if you look at the purple diamonds, which are solution 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6411-1 00:31:42.037 --> 00:31:46.629 aggregator without G fast, you can see that at the time when G 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6411-2 00:31:46.629 --> 00:31:51.075 fast came into it, they were down near the epic magnitude so 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6411-3 00:31:51.075 --> 00:31:55.156 that they were really just alerting and this small area 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6411-4 00:31:55.156 --> 00:31:55.520 here. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6456-0 00:31:55.530 --> 00:31:59.783 So this is an example where bringing in the the Genesis data 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6456-1 00:31:59.783 --> 00:32:04.174 actually made a big difference and that was just to show which 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6456-2 00:32:04.174 --> 00:32:07.660 time step it was and then finally the Tokachi Oki 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6456-3 00:32:07.660 --> 00:32:09.890 earthquake was somewhat similar. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6486-0 00:32:09.900 --> 00:32:15.333 In this entity G fast magnitude estimate was much higher from 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6486-1 00:32:15.333 --> 00:32:20.502 the gecko, and in this case Finder happened to have a hard 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6476-0 00:32:16.590 --> 00:32:16.880 Umm. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6486-2 00:32:20.502 --> 00:32:20.940 time. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6489-0 00:32:21.550 --> 00:32:22.280 It took longer. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6504-0 00:32:22.290 --> 00:32:26.205 I should say to get to the something approaching the true 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6504-1 00:32:26.205 --> 00:32:26.880 magnitude. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6522-0 00:32:26.890 --> 00:32:31.059 So again, Gefest made a big difference in the solution 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6522-1 00:32:31.059 --> 00:32:32.650 aggregator magnitude. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6549-0 00:32:32.660 --> 00:32:37.169 Once it was available and increased the alerting region to 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6549-1 00:32:37.169 --> 00:32:41.830 more accurately, umm, cover the the people who felt shaking. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6582-0 00:32:43.090 --> 00:32:47.454 So so to summarize, the first part of the talk of we've 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6582-1 00:32:47.454 --> 00:32:52.442 adapted the TGD based magnitude estimation module of G fast for 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6582-2 00:32:52.442 --> 00:32:54.000 use and shake alert. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6622-0 00:32:54.050 --> 00:32:57.364 And we have message throttling criteria that respond to the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6622-1 00:32:57.364 --> 00:33:00.622 unique noise characteristics of real time GNSS and they're 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6622-2 00:33:00.622 --> 00:33:03.825 empirically based and they help ensure that only reliable 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6622-3 00:33:03.825 --> 00:33:06.420 magnitude estimates contribute to shake alert. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6654-0 00:33:07.660 --> 00:33:11.110 The real time testing has helped us a lot in fine tuning the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6654-1 00:33:11.110 --> 00:33:14.617 throttling criteria and it also has demonstrated the expected 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6654-2 00:33:14.617 --> 00:33:18.010 behavior in the absence of Guinness detectable earthquakes. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6705-0 00:33:18.550 --> 00:33:22.956 And we're developing a binary data quality flag that will also 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6705-1 00:33:22.956 --> 00:33:26.941 help to further reduce the chance of over alerts and the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6705-2 00:33:26.941 --> 00:33:31.416 replays of the historic events have shown chief SPG's potential 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6705-3 00:33:31.416 --> 00:33:35.262 to improve alerts, especially for the large subduction 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6705-4 00:33:35.262 --> 00:33:36.870 megathrust earthquakes. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6729-0 00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:41.593 And we submitted this algorithm for the formal testing and 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6729-1 00:33:41.593 --> 00:33:44.350 evaluation in February, which is ongoing. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6787-0 00:33:44.500 --> 00:33:49.100 And I guess I'd make one other comment here, which is that what 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6787-1 00:33:49.100 --> 00:33:53.340 I've shown you has taken a fairly conservative approach in 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6787-2 00:33:53.340 --> 00:33:57.293 terms of when the defects magnitudes will actually get 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6787-3 00:33:57.293 --> 00:34:01.462 sent to the solution aggregator and that's why by design, 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6787-4 00:34:01.462 --> 00:34:05.630 because we can always relax those criteria in the future. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6795-0 00:34:05.740 --> 00:34:08.380 But it's better to start conservatively. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6831-0 00:34:08.450 --> 00:34:12.158 Make sure we don't have over alerts and make sure that all 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6831-1 00:34:12.158 --> 00:34:16.180 the pieces are working together and and then start to see where 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6831-2 00:34:16.180 --> 00:34:19.070 we might change things to allow it to report. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6857-0 00:34:19.120 --> 00:34:23.807 For example, on smaller earthquakes, so the second part 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6857-1 00:34:23.807 --> 00:34:28.829 of the talk is going to start to think about what can we do 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6857-2 00:34:28.829 --> 00:34:30.670 beyond a point source. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6884-0 00:34:30.680 --> 00:34:35.330 So Epic provides appoints source and G fast, provides a point 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6884-1 00:34:35.330 --> 00:34:38.930 source, have approximation to to an earthquake. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6905-0 00:34:39.620 --> 00:34:44.344 But what can we do if we use real time TSS data to develop a 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6905-1 00:34:44.344 --> 00:34:46.280 a distributed slip model? 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6913-0 00:34:46.290 --> 00:34:48.530 And can that lead to better alerting? 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6928-0 00:34:49.000 --> 00:34:53.559 So in an earlier paper, we looked at this using uh 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/6928-1 00:34:53.559 --> 00:34:56.330 synthetic models of earthquake. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7024-0 00:34:56.340 --> 00:35:00.989 So we evaluated whether a 3D finite fault model improves 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7024-1 00:35:00.989 --> 00:35:05.720 alert triality hi enabling better ground motion estimates 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7024-2 00:35:05.720 --> 00:35:10.614 compared to point and line sources, and an example is shown 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7024-3 00:35:10.614 --> 00:35:15.589 from that paper in the figure here and what we were doing is 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7024-4 00:35:15.589 --> 00:35:20.157 we had as a reference sources which were 3D rectangular 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7024-5 00:35:20.157 --> 00:35:25.459 sources and then we developed a bunch of test sources which were 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7024-6 00:35:25.459 --> 00:35:30.760 either 3D or line sources where some parameter was misestimated. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7038-0 00:35:30.770 --> 00:35:34.801 So in the figure here we're showing examples where length 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7038-1 00:35:34.801 --> 00:35:36.260 was was misestimated. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7076-0 00:35:36.270 --> 00:35:39.978 So if you have a source model that's it's still 3D finite 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7076-1 00:35:39.978 --> 00:35:43.430 fault, but you under overestimate the length and then 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7076-2 00:35:43.430 --> 00:35:46.370 what if you try to represent that earthquake? 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7099-0 00:35:46.380 --> 00:35:49.782 Actually, with just aligned source that may have it length 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7099-1 00:35:49.782 --> 00:35:52.030 and its magnitude under overestimated. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7156-0 00:35:52.040 --> 00:35:56.918 And I think the take home from this figure for the purpose of 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7156-1 00:35:56.918 --> 00:36:01.874 this talk is that in almost all cases, the line sources, which 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7156-2 00:36:01.874 --> 00:36:06.909 are the triangles and the stars and had a higher false negative 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7156-3 00:36:06.909 --> 00:36:10.370 rate compared to the 3D finite fault model. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7180-0 00:36:10.380 --> 00:36:14.259 And even when that model had incorrect parameters and false 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7180-1 00:36:14.259 --> 00:36:17.750 negative rate basically translates to under alerting. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7198-0 00:36:17.760 --> 00:36:20.389 So there are people who would have felt shaking would not get 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7198-1 00:36:20.389 --> 00:36:20.770 an alert. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7237-0 00:36:20.780 --> 00:36:24.431 And so our conclusion, I think the the important conclusion 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7237-1 00:36:24.431 --> 00:36:28.446 from that paper was that using a 3D geometry could offer the most 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7237-2 00:36:28.446 --> 00:36:31.610 improvement in the case of a megathrust earthquake. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7262-0 00:36:31.880 --> 00:36:35.206 But that study was using hypothetical source geometries 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7262-1 00:36:35.206 --> 00:36:38.889 that were very simplified, and they didn't consider spatially 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7262-2 00:36:38.889 --> 00:36:39.720 variable slip. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7294-0 00:36:39.850 --> 00:36:44.697 But there are real time Genesis as based algorithms that have 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7294-1 00:36:44.697 --> 00:36:49.230 been published and they do produce real time slip models. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7317-0 00:36:49.240 --> 00:36:52.899 And so here we're exploring the potential impact of one of those 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7317-1 00:36:52.899 --> 00:36:55.770 algorithms using data models for real earthquakes. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7359-0 00:36:56.890 --> 00:37:00.581 So the algorithm that I'll be talking about today is called 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7359-1 00:37:00.581 --> 00:37:04.209 befores and it was something that Sarah Minson developed a 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7359-2 00:37:04.209 --> 00:37:07.285 number of years ago and it provides a real time 3 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7359-3 00:37:07.285 --> 00:37:09.560 dimensional distributed slip models. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7405-0 00:37:09.750 --> 00:37:14.899 So the input our real time GNSS displacement time series and it 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7405-1 00:37:14.899 --> 00:37:19.807 does a Bayesian model class selection for the strike and the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7405-2 00:37:19.807 --> 00:37:25.117 depth of a fault plane, and then using the the most likely strike 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7405-3 00:37:25.117 --> 00:37:25.760 and dip. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7429-0 00:37:25.770 --> 00:37:28.851 It then does an analytical these in inversion for the slip 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7429-1 00:37:28.851 --> 00:37:29.530 distribution. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7462-0 00:37:29.540 --> 00:37:35.202 So the length and and width of the the rupture are determined 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7462-1 00:37:35.202 --> 00:37:41.046 by where the inversion puts slip with the idea that if you make 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7462-2 00:37:41.046 --> 00:37:42.050 this fixed. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7468-0 00:37:42.100 --> 00:37:44.070 Uh, fault dimension. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7525-0 00:37:44.280 --> 00:37:47.607 If you make it big enough, then the inversion will put slip 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7525-1 00:37:47.607 --> 00:37:51.211 where it needs to be to fit the data and that will actually tell 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7525-2 00:37:51.211 --> 00:37:54.593 you that the actual length and width and then as I mentioned 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7525-3 00:37:54.593 --> 00:37:58.086 before, the strike and dip our from the Bayesian inversion for 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7525-4 00:37:58.086 --> 00:37:59.250 those two parameters. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7546-0 00:37:59.260 --> 00:38:03.074 And here are two examples from that paper for the Tokachi Oki 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7546-1 00:38:03.074 --> 00:38:05.350 earthquake in the Tohoku earthquake. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7565-0 00:38:06.060 --> 00:38:09.933 So I think it's useful to look in a little more detail what's 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7565-1 00:38:09.933 --> 00:38:10.870 happening here. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7596-0 00:38:10.880 --> 00:38:15.008 So this is where Tokachi, Oki and it's showing how the strike 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7596-1 00:38:15.008 --> 00:38:18.270 the dip in the magnitude are evolving with time. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7618-0 00:38:18.980 --> 00:38:22.853 Since origin time and so you can see that initially when you 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7618-1 00:38:22.853 --> 00:38:26.090 don't have much data, it's kind of jumping around. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7668-0 00:38:26.370 --> 00:38:30.864 And it's not very stable with the magnitude is is increasing 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7668-1 00:38:30.864 --> 00:38:35.064 and eventually the strike and dip do kind of settle down 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7668-2 00:38:35.064 --> 00:38:39.705 towards something like the the, the true value that that I was 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7668-3 00:38:39.705 --> 00:38:41.620 determined after the fact. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7688-0 00:38:41.830 --> 00:38:45.822 This map at the right is showing what things look like at 30 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7688-1 00:38:45.822 --> 00:38:47.720 seconds past the origin time. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7726-0 00:38:47.730 --> 00:38:52.418 So where this pink bar is so you can see there are very few 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7726-1 00:38:52.418 --> 00:38:57.341 stations reporting and and the best fitting strike and dip are 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7726-2 00:38:57.341 --> 00:39:00.700 chosen based on the on maximum likelihood. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7761-0 00:39:00.710 --> 00:39:04.006 So this is dip and this is strike and you can see that the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7761-1 00:39:04.006 --> 00:39:07.582 the best fitting is sort of the reddest of the red part of that 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7761-2 00:39:07.582 --> 00:39:08.140 color map. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7813-0 00:39:08.150 --> 00:39:13.165 But there are other orientations that might sort of have a 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7813-1 00:39:13.165 --> 00:39:18.690 similar fit by the time you get to 60 seconds after origin time, 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7813-2 00:39:18.690 --> 00:39:24.130 it's getting a more reasonable strike dip and in magnitude, but 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7813-3 00:39:24.130 --> 00:39:29.400 you can see still that that, umm, strike in particular is not 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7813-4 00:39:29.400 --> 00:39:31.440 really well constrained. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7844-0 00:39:31.450 --> 00:39:34.148 So there are a lot of orientations that might affect 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7844-1 00:39:34.148 --> 00:39:35.370 the data similarly well. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7854-0 00:39:35.380 --> 00:39:40.257 So there's some instability here that would then map into 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7854-1 00:39:40.257 --> 00:39:45.470 changing source parameters and intern ground motion estimates 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7854-2 00:39:45.470 --> 00:39:46.310 over time. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7896-0 00:39:47.850 --> 00:39:51.682 Umm, so I think that most people would would think that the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7896-1 00:39:51.682 --> 00:39:55.514 generally in a retrospective sense using a distributed slip 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7896-2 00:39:55.514 --> 00:39:59.282 model would improve ground motion prediction compared to a 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7896-3 00:39:59.282 --> 00:40:01.900 point source for very large earthquakes. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7914-0 00:40:01.910 --> 00:40:06.637 And so here is an example for Tokachi Oki where I'm showing 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7914-1 00:40:06.637 --> 00:40:08.370 the point source from. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7932-0 00:40:08.380 --> 00:40:11.160 This is from the egg's subduction flat file. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7968-0 00:40:11.170 --> 00:40:16.026 That would be considered a sort of final point source, magnitude 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7968-1 00:40:16.026 --> 00:40:20.209 and location, and many of the locations are being under 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7968-2 00:40:20.209 --> 00:40:24.690 predicted in terms of in in this case peak ground velocity. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/7982-0 00:40:24.700 --> 00:40:29.230 So red would mean under predicted and here on the right. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8002-0 00:40:29.240 --> 00:40:32.629 What I'm showing is the ground motion, the meeting ground 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8002-1 00:40:32.629 --> 00:40:35.550 motion that was predicted from several published. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8017-0 00:40:35.810 --> 00:40:39.466 So again, retrospective distributed slip models where 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8017-1 00:40:39.466 --> 00:40:41.970 the residuals are generally smaller. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8038-0 00:40:41.980 --> 00:40:45.780 So so we think that having that finite fall information can be 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8038-1 00:40:45.780 --> 00:40:47.710 important for large earthquakes. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8054-0 00:40:47.720 --> 00:40:51.345 But the question that we need to look at is whether this is 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8054-1 00:40:51.345 --> 00:40:52.190 actually true. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8075-0 00:40:52.200 --> 00:40:54.712 When you look at real time models, please, that's the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8075-1 00:40:54.712 --> 00:40:57.130 situation that will be in for quick early warnings. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8113-0 00:40:57.140 --> 00:41:02.071 So these first two maps are the same as in the previous figure, 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8113-1 00:41:02.071 --> 00:41:06.925 and the third one is what you would get if you used the before 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8113-2 00:41:06.925 --> 00:41:10.160 model from 65 seconds passed origin time. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8140-0 00:41:10.790 --> 00:41:15.024 You can see that and in this case it's it's tending to 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8140-1 00:41:15.024 --> 00:41:19.180 overpredict, so you know it's it's the ground motion. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8176-0 00:41:19.240 --> 00:41:22.401 Residuals are probably similar in terms of absolute value 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8176-1 00:41:22.401 --> 00:41:25.563 between the point source in this real time source and the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8176-2 00:41:25.563 --> 00:41:29.160 question really is how does this translate into who would receive 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8176-3 00:41:29.160 --> 00:41:29.650 an alert? 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8216-0 00:41:30.930 --> 00:41:34.858 So what I've done is to use observed and predicted ground 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8216-1 00:41:34.858 --> 00:41:38.921 motion to explore the alert outcomes using different source 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8216-2 00:41:38.921 --> 00:41:43.052 models and the procedure try to walk you through is starting 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8216-3 00:41:43.052 --> 00:41:44.000 with observed. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8285-0 00:41:44.010 --> 00:41:48.095 In this case, I'm showing peak ground velocity, but could be 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8285-1 00:41:48.095 --> 00:41:52.246 peak ground acceleration from the NGA subduction database and 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8285-2 00:41:52.246 --> 00:41:56.130 then getting predicted round motion at the same locations 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8285-3 00:41:56.130 --> 00:42:00.214 using subduction zone ground motion lookup tables that Amory 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8285-4 00:42:00.214 --> 00:42:04.365 and others have been developing for shake alert and those are 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8285-5 00:42:04.365 --> 00:42:07.780 based on the inja subduction ground motion models. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8319-0 00:42:08.210 --> 00:42:13.705 And so here I'll be showing today examples for PGB and PGA 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8319-1 00:42:13.705 --> 00:42:19.480 and then you need to choose some alert thresholds that you're 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8319-2 00:42:19.480 --> 00:42:20.970 going to to use. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8355-0 00:42:20.980 --> 00:42:25.917 So based on work by Jesse Saunders and others, it's been 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8355-1 00:42:25.917 --> 00:42:31.460 shown that in order to alert the people that you want to alert, 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8355-2 00:42:31.460 --> 00:42:35.530 you need to choose an alert issuing threshold. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8373-0 00:42:35.610 --> 00:42:39.214 We'll call it the alert threshold that's lower than the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8373-1 00:42:39.214 --> 00:42:41.980 target shaking that you want to alert for. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8409-0 00:42:41.990 --> 00:42:46.846 So if you want to alert people who will feel a make MI six, you 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8409-1 00:42:46.846 --> 00:42:51.627 should be using an alert issuing threshold that's around in my 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8409-2 00:42:51.627 --> 00:42:51.930 MI4. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8437-0 00:42:51.940 --> 00:42:55.717 So how so you set your tube thresholds here and then 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8437-1 00:42:55.717 --> 00:42:59.351 identify the stations with predicted ground motion 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8437-2 00:42:59.351 --> 00:43:02.130 exceeding the alert issuing threshold? 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8451-0 00:43:02.460 --> 00:43:05.450 Those would be the ones that are going to receive alerts. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8474-0 00:43:05.920 --> 00:43:10.057 So so now you have observed and predicted Grandma motion and you 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8474-1 00:43:10.057 --> 00:43:13.876 need to categorize whether people were correctly alerted or 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8474-2 00:43:13.876 --> 00:43:14.130 not. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8507-0 00:43:14.200 --> 00:43:20.191 So and this is then the map showing for the same earthquake 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8507-1 00:43:20.191 --> 00:43:26.582 and the point source model and how the different locations were 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8507-2 00:43:26.582 --> 00:43:27.380 alerted. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8525-0 00:43:27.390 --> 00:43:30.017 So true negative is pretty straightforward and the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8525-1 00:43:30.017 --> 00:43:32.540 predicted ground motion was below the threshold. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8528-0 00:43:32.550 --> 00:43:33.660 So it was the observed. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8539-0 00:43:33.870 --> 00:43:36.500 So you don't need to worry about that. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8578-0 00:43:36.870 --> 00:43:40.725 A false negative would be that it was not alerted, so it was 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8578-1 00:43:40.725 --> 00:43:44.643 below the alert threshold, but these are was greater than the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8578-2 00:43:44.643 --> 00:43:48.182 threshold and then there are two here which I'm calling 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8578-3 00:43:48.182 --> 00:43:48.940 conditional. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8624-0 00:43:48.950 --> 00:43:52.145 There may be better terminology that I could use but, but 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8624-1 00:43:52.145 --> 00:43:55.506 basically what I'm calling the conditional false negative is 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8624-2 00:43:55.506 --> 00:43:58.535 just to to get at the fact that you have now these two 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8624-3 00:43:58.535 --> 00:44:01.620 thresholds, the alert issuing and the target threshold. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8644-0 00:44:01.630 --> 00:44:04.997 So these are the ones that did not receive an alert because the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8644-1 00:44:04.997 --> 00:44:07.890 predicted ground motion was below the alert threshold. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8666-0 00:44:08.730 --> 00:44:12.118 Umm, but they actually did observe ground motion higher 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8666-1 00:44:12.118 --> 00:44:15.445 than that threshold, but just not exceeding the target 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8666-2 00:44:15.445 --> 00:44:16.050 threshold. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8714-0 00:44:16.060 --> 00:44:20.148 So these are locations that would have been nice to be able 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8714-1 00:44:20.148 --> 00:44:24.440 to alert them because they did feel light to moderate shaking, 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8714-2 00:44:24.440 --> 00:44:28.460 but they weren't in the sort of priority group of alerting 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8714-3 00:44:28.460 --> 00:44:30.980 people who felt many MI 6 or higher. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8746-0 00:44:31.470 --> 00:44:34.638 And likewise it conditional true positive would be the ones who 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8746-1 00:44:34.638 --> 00:44:37.855 did receive an alert, but their ground motion was in between the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8746-2 00:44:37.855 --> 00:44:39.340 alert threshold in the target. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8755-0 00:44:39.350 --> 00:44:41.310 So that kind of in some sense, a bonus. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8784-0 00:44:41.320 --> 00:44:44.746 We're glad that we were also able to alert them because they 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8784-1 00:44:44.746 --> 00:44:47.892 did feel something and then the true positive is fairly 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8784-2 00:44:47.892 --> 00:44:48.790 straightforward. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8817-0 00:44:48.800 --> 00:44:52.963 It received an alert and was above the target threshold and 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8817-1 00:44:52.963 --> 00:44:57.195 the false positive would be those who received an alert, but 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8817-2 00:44:57.195 --> 00:44:59.970 actually felt less than MI for shaking. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8862-0 00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:04.301 So you can categorize the locations this way and then you 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8862-1 00:45:04.301 --> 00:45:07.801 can also look at statistics like in this case 100% of the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8862-2 00:45:07.801 --> 00:45:11.422 locations that should have been alerted based on the target 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8862-3 00:45:11.422 --> 00:45:12.810 threshold were alerted. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8878-0 00:45:12.820 --> 00:45:18.060 Those are the dark green or 5.8% of the alerts that were issued. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8901-0 00:45:18.070 --> 00:45:21.438 So all of the, yeah, the ones that exceeded the alert 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8901-1 00:45:21.438 --> 00:45:23.870 threshold happened to be false alerts. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8913-0 00:45:24.120 --> 00:45:25.860 So you can start to look at those things. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8939-0 00:45:26.870 --> 00:45:30.851 And one thing that we had to consider in trying to 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8939-1 00:45:30.851 --> 00:45:35.379 incorporate distributed slip models is how do you measure 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8939-2 00:45:35.379 --> 00:45:36.940 that source station? 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8955-0 00:45:36.950 --> 00:45:39.980 Distance is not as obvious, it's the point source, for example. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8994-0 00:45:39.990 --> 00:45:43.025 So the ground motion lookup tables use the joiner board 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8994-1 00:45:43.025 --> 00:45:46.059 distance, which is the shortest distance to the surface 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8994-2 00:45:46.059 --> 00:45:49.581 projection of the rupture, which makes it zero for stations that 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/8994-3 00:45:49.581 --> 00:45:51.260 are directly above this source. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9049-0 00:45:51.990 --> 00:45:55.756 So for the distributed slip models that I'm showing today, 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9049-1 00:45:55.756 --> 00:45:59.585 we're using the outline of the slip region to calculate the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9049-2 00:45:59.585 --> 00:46:03.605 joiner board distance where the outline is defined as the area 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9049-3 00:46:03.605 --> 00:46:07.690 surrounding everything that had at least 15% of the peak slept, 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9049-4 00:46:07.690 --> 00:46:09.540 which is an arbitrary choice. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9058-0 00:46:09.550 --> 00:46:11.880 But that's how the outline was defined here. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9081-0 00:46:14.720 --> 00:46:18.566 I'll make one side note about the rupture distance for the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9081-1 00:46:18.566 --> 00:46:20.130 distributed slip models. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9097-0 00:46:20.700 --> 00:46:24.189 As I just commented, you know taking the outline of of the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9097-1 00:46:24.189 --> 00:46:24.780 slip area. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9105-0 00:46:25.900 --> 00:46:27.850 Uh, it's kind of an arbitrary choice. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9176-0 00:46:28.300 --> 00:46:32.175 Comes in and Balti developed a different, a different kind of 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9176-1 00:46:32.175 --> 00:46:35.487 distance measure called the generalized mean rupture 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9176-2 00:46:35.487 --> 00:46:39.612 distance, which it offers a more natural way to include spatially 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9176-3 00:46:39.612 --> 00:46:43.486 variable slip because you can use it as a weighting that when 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9176-4 00:46:43.486 --> 00:46:47.048 you're finding the source station distance would perhaps 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9176-5 00:46:47.048 --> 00:46:50.673 put more weight on parts of the fault where this clip was 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9176-6 00:46:50.673 --> 00:46:51.110 higher. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9221-0 00:46:51.190 --> 00:46:56.562 So it's a takes out sort of the arbitrary choice of 15% and it 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9221-1 00:46:56.562 --> 00:47:02.018 allows you some flexibility in how you weight the, the relative 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9221-2 00:47:02.018 --> 00:47:07.560 importance of parts of the file that are close and farther away. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9251-0 00:47:07.730 --> 00:47:12.609 And you can see if you squint, that the ground motion residuals 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9251-1 00:47:12.609 --> 00:47:17.640 are different if you use the two the joiner board distance versus 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9251-2 00:47:17.640 --> 00:47:20.460 the mean rupture distance. And what? 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9309-0 00:47:20.510 --> 00:47:24.366 I'm still exploring is whether they're different in a way that 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9309-1 00:47:24.366 --> 00:47:28.161 improves alerting, and that's less clear, whether it's really 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9309-2 00:47:28.161 --> 00:47:31.650 whether using this distance measure, although physically 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9309-3 00:47:31.650 --> 00:47:35.262 speaking, it feels like a a better choice, it may not be a 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9309-4 00:47:35.262 --> 00:47:37.220 better choice for alert outcome. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9330-0 00:47:37.230 --> 00:47:40.385 So in in the results I'm showing today, I'm using the joiner boy 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9330-1 00:47:40.385 --> 00:47:41.550 distance for everything. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9344-0 00:47:42.870 --> 00:47:47.140 So as I said, I wanted to look at real earthquakes. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9371-0 00:47:47.150 --> 00:47:51.169 And So what I did was find a set of earthquakes where I could 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9371-1 00:47:51.169 --> 00:47:54.280 find a this a published distributed slip model. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9396-0 00:47:54.290 --> 00:47:59.332 I could find real time GNSS data to run before us and that I 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9396-1 00:47:59.332 --> 00:48:04.290 could find observed ground motion and some self consistent. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9418-0 00:48:05.000 --> 00:48:09.722 So what I have are 10 earthquakes here and then I have 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9418-1 00:48:09.722 --> 00:48:13.070 all the the different source modeling. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9499-0 00:48:13.180 --> 00:48:17.390 Pardon me, source modeling methods and that I've applied 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9499-1 00:48:17.390 --> 00:48:21.601 and so some of these epic G Fest, Finder and befores are 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9499-2 00:48:21.601 --> 00:48:25.663 going to give you a time evolution of the source and I 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9499-3 00:48:25.663 --> 00:48:30.169 only have the results for Epic G Fest and Finder for the two 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9499-4 00:48:30.169 --> 00:48:34.822 events I I showed you earlier to Kachidoki and Tohoku from the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9499-5 00:48:34.822 --> 00:48:37.850 test suite and but then I've run before. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9502-0 00:48:37.860 --> 00:48:38.720 He's on all of them. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9521-0 00:48:38.730 --> 00:48:42.685 And then I have these two columns that are called our best 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9521-1 00:48:42.685 --> 00:48:43.020 case. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9568-0 00:48:43.030 --> 00:48:47.200 So these are the retrospective models, either retrospective 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9568-1 00:48:47.200 --> 00:48:50.883 point source or published distributed slip models to 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9568-2 00:48:50.883 --> 00:48:55.261 basically say well OK before if the real time approximation is 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9568-3 00:48:55.261 --> 00:48:59.569 not going to be as good as an approximation is what you might 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9568-4 00:48:59.569 --> 00:49:00.820 do after the fact. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9587-0 00:49:00.830 --> 00:49:06.381 If we could have a perfect real time distributed slip algorithm, 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9587-1 00:49:06.381 --> 00:49:08.260 would that be helpful? 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9617-0 00:49:08.270 --> 00:49:13.814 So those are the things that I'll be comparing and so I'll 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9617-1 00:49:13.814 --> 00:49:19.640 start with looking at the PGV alert outcomes for and the best 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9617-2 00:49:19.640 --> 00:49:20.110 case. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9622-0 00:49:20.230 --> 00:49:20.710 Please sorry. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9669-0 00:49:20.720 --> 00:49:24.567 So this is coming the location and magnitude from the NG's 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9669-1 00:49:24.567 --> 00:49:28.674 subduction database, and so you can, you know, it's useful and 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9669-2 00:49:28.674 --> 00:49:32.715 and informative to look at these maps of where people receive 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9669-3 00:49:32.715 --> 00:49:34.410 different kinds of alerts. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9694-0 00:49:34.420 --> 00:49:38.607 But it's also useful to look at all the earthquakes on one flat, 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9694-1 00:49:38.607 --> 00:49:40.410 so that's what's shown here. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9720-0 00:49:40.540 --> 00:49:45.899 And what you're able to see is that basically this area up here 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9720-1 00:49:45.899 --> 00:49:49.750 is where the granulation was under predicted. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9743-0 00:49:50.150 --> 00:49:53.831 You're able to see that some places were not alerted, so 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9743-1 00:49:53.831 --> 00:49:57.770 you've under alerting and then also you had false positives. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9847-0 00:49:57.780 --> 00:50:02.008 So there were some locations where Overlearning happened and 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9847-1 00:50:02.008 --> 00:50:05.680 you can look at this then for best case in real time 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9847-2 00:50:05.680 --> 00:50:10.115 distributed slip models and so in the published slip models for 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9847-3 00:50:10.115 --> 00:50:14.343 each earthquake there may be one, there may be 5 and publish 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9847-4 00:50:14.343 --> 00:50:18.293 slip models and so for each earthquake I took the median 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9847-5 00:50:18.293 --> 00:50:22.381 ground motion predicted for whatever models were available 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9847-6 00:50:22.381 --> 00:50:26.747 and for before it's I'm looking at what one might consider the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9847-7 00:50:26.747 --> 00:50:30.905 final time step, which is the time step where it's solution 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9847-8 00:50:30.905 --> 00:50:32.360 started to stabilize. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9875-0 00:50:32.920 --> 00:50:38.707 And so you can see what these models you have minimal under 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9875-1 00:50:38.707 --> 00:50:44.590 learning, but you also have more overpredicted found motion. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9932-0 00:50:44.600 --> 00:50:49.126 So you have an increased likelihood of of over alerting 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9932-1 00:50:49.126 --> 00:50:53.895 here and then just to look at the two real time and models 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9932-2 00:50:53.895 --> 00:50:58.017 that are one is in the production system, one will 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9932-3 00:50:58.017 --> 00:51:02.705 hopefully soon be in the production system from scheduler 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9932-4 00:51:02.705 --> 00:51:06.180 and you can see how those results compare. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9949-0 00:51:06.190 --> 00:51:10.540 So again, you have largely under predicted ground motion in some 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9949-1 00:51:10.540 --> 00:51:12.280 under alerting from these. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9976-0 00:51:12.700 --> 00:51:17.099 So again, these are all using on that time step where before they 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9976-1 00:51:17.099 --> 00:51:21.030 started to stabilize, which I'm calling sort of the final. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/9988-0 00:51:21.980 --> 00:51:27.150 And so and it's that's ohh one way to look at it. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10009-0 00:51:27.160 --> 00:51:30.590 But then it's also useful to try to see all the algorithms on on 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10009-1 00:51:30.590 --> 00:51:31.170 one figure. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10034-0 00:51:31.180 --> 00:51:34.930 So here what I'm looking at are two metrics, the percent of 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10034-1 00:51:34.930 --> 00:51:38.430 locations that should have received an alert and do so. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10055-0 00:51:38.440 --> 00:51:41.853 That would be when these numbers get small, you have under 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10055-1 00:51:41.853 --> 00:51:45.150 alerting and then the percent of alerts that were false. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10094-0 00:51:45.160 --> 00:51:49.916 So and the bigger that is a more over alerting you have and then 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10094-1 00:51:49.916 --> 00:51:54.305 the different algorithms are color coded and so you can see 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10094-2 00:51:54.305 --> 00:51:58.329 that most of the algorithms alert most of the priority 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10094-3 00:51:58.329 --> 00:51:59.060 locations. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10121-0 00:51:59.070 --> 00:52:02.958 So those exceeding the target threshold for most of the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10121-1 00:52:02.958 --> 00:52:07.400 earthquakes, because they're all clustering near to 90 to 100%. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10170-0 00:52:08.030 --> 00:52:12.406 But there's a lot of variation in the amount of overlearning, 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10170-1 00:52:12.406 --> 00:52:16.640 and so to to break that apart a bit more, now I put the two 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10170-2 00:52:16.640 --> 00:52:21.016 metrics on 2 separate plots and the percent of locations that 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10170-3 00:52:21.016 --> 00:52:24.050 should receive an alert and do shows that. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10212-0 00:52:26.930 --> 00:52:31.079 The under learning is primarily happening with the point sources 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10212-1 00:52:31.079 --> 00:52:35.227 and particularly epic because we know that it has a problem with 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10212-2 00:52:35.227 --> 00:52:39.120 magnitude saturation and in terms of alerts that were false. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10257-0 00:52:39.210 --> 00:52:43.322 The point source is, as one might expect, issue fewer false 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10257-1 00:52:43.322 --> 00:52:47.501 alerts and the over alerting increases with lower magnitudes 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10257-2 00:52:47.501 --> 00:52:51.339 and you do see that there are probably some earthquakes 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10257-3 00:52:51.339 --> 00:52:54.970 specific effects where you all models for this work. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10277-0 00:52:54.980 --> 00:52:58.822 We have some higher number of false alerts and you can see 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10277-1 00:52:58.822 --> 00:53:00.450 other questers similarly. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10307-0 00:53:00.460 --> 00:53:05.234 So I did want to point out where Finder falls on this, because 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10307-1 00:53:05.234 --> 00:53:09.781 one question that needs to be answered is we already have a 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10307-2 00:53:09.781 --> 00:53:11.220 finite fault model. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10327-0 00:53:11.230 --> 00:53:14.348 It's a line source when it is a finite fault model in shake 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10327-1 00:53:14.348 --> 00:53:14.660 alert. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10334-0 00:53:14.670 --> 00:53:16.330 Do we need something more than that? 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10346-0 00:53:16.600 --> 00:53:18.840 And you can see that here it's doing quite well. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10383-0 00:53:19.510 --> 00:53:23.795 Now I'm looking at peak ground acceleration and so you can see 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10383-1 00:53:23.795 --> 00:53:28.080 there's more under alerting than we saw with PGV and perhaps a 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10383-2 00:53:28.080 --> 00:53:30.800 greater tendency towards over alerting. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10414-0 00:53:30.810 --> 00:53:36.326 These markers extend to higher percentages here and and we find 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10414-1 00:53:36.326 --> 00:53:41.928 that the point sources generally are causing more under learning 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10414-2 00:53:41.928 --> 00:53:45.030 than and the other kinds of models. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10443-0 00:53:45.040 --> 00:53:48.881 However, the best case point source, which is the the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10443-1 00:53:48.881 --> 00:53:53.291 retrospective one, is doing as well as the finite fault model 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10443-2 00:53:53.291 --> 00:53:55.140 for several of the events. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10464-0 00:53:55.990 --> 00:54:01.199 Umm, in terms of the the overall learning before shows the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10464-1 00:54:01.199 --> 00:54:04.730 highest tendency towards over alerting. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10496-0 00:54:07.090 --> 00:54:11.454 And the even the sort of best case distributed is the the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10496-1 00:54:11.454 --> 00:54:15.366 models also show more overlearning than for example 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10496-2 00:54:15.366 --> 00:54:16.720 the Finder source. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10548-0 00:54:17.630 --> 00:54:20.916 So yeah, it's interesting with with Finder because it's 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10548-1 00:54:20.916 --> 00:54:24.377 performance in terms of those metrics is as good or better 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10548-2 00:54:24.377 --> 00:54:27.897 than some of the distributed slip models, which if you look 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10548-3 00:54:27.897 --> 00:54:31.123 at what the source actually looks like, it's it's very 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10548-4 00:54:31.123 --> 00:54:33.880 different from what the actual earthquake was. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10561-0 00:54:33.890 --> 00:54:35.660 I mean, this was a megathrust earthquake in here. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10594-0 00:54:35.670 --> 00:54:40.197 We have a line source right under the coast so so they these 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10594-1 00:54:40.197 --> 00:54:44.352 kind of models can enable alerting the target locations 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10594-2 00:54:44.352 --> 00:54:47.320 despite not being physically realistic. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10638-0 00:54:47.330 --> 00:54:50.919 And here is a similar thing town for Tohoku, so it's a little 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10638-1 00:54:50.919 --> 00:54:54.161 dissatisfying to someone who's spent a lot of my career 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10638-2 00:54:54.161 --> 00:54:57.460 modeling slip, but that I think it's worth pointing out. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10677-0 00:54:58.280 --> 00:55:02.572 And so finally, I'll just show a few slides showing how the the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10677-1 00:55:02.572 --> 00:55:06.797 time progression comes into it, because so far we've only been 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10677-2 00:55:06.797 --> 00:55:09.680 looking at what I termed the final models. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10687-0 00:55:10.340 --> 00:55:13.640 And so it's important to have accurate magnitudes. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10717-0 00:55:14.050 --> 00:55:17.938 But how important is it to have a finite hit include those 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10717-1 00:55:17.938 --> 00:55:21.100 finite fault effects, and in an evolving model? 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10780-0 00:55:21.110 --> 00:55:26.056 So this is showing the temporal evolution of the magnitude from 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10780-1 00:55:26.056 --> 00:55:30.616 several algorithms and the befores magnitude evolution was 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10780-2 00:55:30.616 --> 00:55:35.408 from the published results, but time aligned with the results 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10780-3 00:55:35.408 --> 00:55:40.431 from the Shake Alert test suite and you can see that fluctuation 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10780-4 00:55:40.431 --> 00:55:44.682 in the befores magnitude reflecting the fluctuation in 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10780-5 00:55:44.682 --> 00:55:46.150 the source rameurs. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10812-0 00:55:47.290 --> 00:55:51.040 And I guess the important thing to point out is that G fast, 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10812-1 00:55:51.040 --> 00:55:54.606 which are these blue triangles and B force magnitudes are 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10812-2 00:55:54.606 --> 00:55:56.880 similar, but gefasst is more stable. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10847-0 00:55:57.930 --> 00:56:01.280 Umm, so looking at those two sort of measures of alert 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10847-1 00:56:01.280 --> 00:56:04.812 outcomes, the percent of locations that should be alerted 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10847-2 00:56:04.812 --> 00:56:08.100 and are versus the percent of alerts that were false. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10893-0 00:56:08.470 --> 00:56:13.416 And we see that before is substantially outperforming 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10893-1 00:56:13.416 --> 00:56:19.004 Finder and we also see that before and alerts more locations 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10893-2 00:56:19.004 --> 00:56:24.591 sooner than fifas PGD for PGA, but not for PGV, for for PGV, 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10893-3 00:56:24.591 --> 00:56:27.430 they're they're pretty similar. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10928-0 00:56:27.720 --> 00:56:32.199 And before it's does over alert more locations than the other 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10928-1 00:56:32.199 --> 00:56:36.967 algorithms that particularly for PGA and now looking at a similar 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10928-2 00:56:36.967 --> 00:56:38.050 thing for tofu. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10958-0 00:56:38.640 --> 00:56:43.539 And in this case, PFAS gave the best magnitude along compared to 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10958-1 00:56:43.539 --> 00:56:47.911 the other algorithms and even though towards the end they 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10958-2 00:56:47.911 --> 00:56:49.870 start to to come together. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10991-0 00:56:50.800 --> 00:56:55.398 And so in this case and we see that you faxed PGD has most 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10991-1 00:56:55.398 --> 00:57:00.463 accurate magnitude and for peak ground velocity, it provides the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/10991-2 00:57:00.463 --> 00:57:01.710 earliest alerts. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11008-0 00:57:03.280 --> 00:57:07.362 But the finite fault models befores and Finder ultimately 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11008-1 00:57:07.362 --> 00:57:08.840 alert more locations. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11055-0 00:57:08.850 --> 00:57:14.392 So you have less under learning for those compared to G fast and 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11055-1 00:57:14.392 --> 00:57:19.421 the distributed source models in line sources give similar 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11055-2 00:57:19.421 --> 00:57:24.963 results for PGV, but distributed slip alerts more for PGA at the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11055-3 00:57:24.963 --> 00:57:27.520 expense of more over alerting. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11129-0 00:57:29.010 --> 00:57:33.454 So just to wrap it up then and the conclusions as far and these 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11129-1 00:57:33.454 --> 00:57:35.050 are pretty new results. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11161-0 00:57:35.060 --> 00:57:38.746 So there's a lot to still consider here, but they are 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11161-1 00:57:38.746 --> 00:57:42.910 outcomes that we're seeing are generally better for TGV than 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11161-2 00:57:42.910 --> 00:57:47.006 PGA and for earthquakes with magnitudes lesson about an 8.5 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11161-3 00:57:47.006 --> 00:57:50.761 point source of accurate magnitude seems to be able to 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11161-4 00:57:50.761 --> 00:57:54.925 alert about 90% or more of the target locations for these 10 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11161-5 00:57:54.925 --> 00:57:59.157 earthquakes that we've looked at, overlearning increases with 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11161-6 00:57:59.157 --> 00:58:00.590 decreasing magnitude. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11197-0 00:58:00.820 --> 00:58:04.370 So taking those things into consideration, we've also seen 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11197-1 00:58:04.370 --> 00:58:07.860 the finite fault models can reduce the under alerting for 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11197-2 00:58:07.860 --> 00:58:11.590 the largest events, even if it's magnitude is underestimated. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11223-0 00:58:11.600 --> 00:58:15.646 That's what we suffer to hoku, but they do lead to more over 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11223-1 00:58:15.646 --> 00:58:17.900 alerts, particularly for PGA Umm. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11288-0 00:58:18.240 --> 00:58:22.098 And these results serve taken together, I would suggest that 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11288-1 00:58:22.098 --> 00:58:25.955 the real time distributed some models could improve alerting 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11288-2 00:58:25.955 --> 00:58:29.116 for the magnitude 8 1/2 or greater slab interface 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11288-3 00:58:29.116 --> 00:58:32.278 earthquakes, but more comprehensive evaluation is 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11288-4 00:58:32.278 --> 00:58:35.756 likely going to require synthetic data because we just 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11288-5 00:58:35.756 --> 00:58:39.360 don't have observations for many very large earthquakes. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11317-0 00:58:39.770 --> 00:58:42.996 And I guess the last thing I'd point out is that these tests 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11317-1 00:58:42.996 --> 00:58:46.010 explore the temporal variations in performance among the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11317-2 00:58:46.010 --> 00:58:47.860 algorithms relative to each other. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11375-0 00:58:48.190 --> 00:58:51.480 But to actually quantify timeliness of a learning, you 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11375-1 00:58:51.480 --> 00:58:55.009 need to evaluate with respect to the temporal evolution of 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11375-2 00:58:55.009 --> 00:58:58.538 observed ground motion at the stations and to do it in the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11375-3 00:58:58.538 --> 00:59:02.366 best way possible, we would run all the algorithms jointly in a 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11375-4 00:59:02.366 --> 00:59:04.280 simulated shared implementation. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11392-0 00:59:05.250 --> 00:59:09.159 So I'm gonna end there and I'm happy to take questions and 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11392-1 00:59:09.159 --> 00:59:10.550 thanks for listening. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11465-0 00:59:17.540 --> 00:59:21.146 We're going to now attempt to switch audio to the Poly instead 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11465-1 00:59:21.146 --> 00:59:24.809 of through justice computer, so give us about 20 seconds, Jess, 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11465-2 00:59:24.809 --> 00:59:28.472 if we can use your speaker and your mic through teams will then 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11465-3 00:59:28.472 --> 00:59:31.963 switch to the Poly and then we'll can facilitate some online 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11465-4 00:59:31.963 --> 00:59:32.650 discussions. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11481-0 00:59:43.970 --> 00:59:48.870 Hey, I don't hear any echo, so I think we're good questions in 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11481-1 00:59:48.870 --> 00:59:49.570 the room. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11505-0 00:59:54.860 --> 00:59:59.231 I've got one, so this is pretty different from the type of 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11505-1 00:59:59.231 --> 01:00:02.490 earthquake problems that I think about and. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11548-0 01:00:02.500 --> 01:00:06.506 And you touched on it at the very end how in in, in the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11548-1 01:00:06.506 --> 01:00:10.298 Sheckler community, how important is a difference of 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11548-2 01:00:10.298 --> 01:00:14.948 five to 10 seconds when it comes to sending out these alerts for 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11548-3 01:00:14.948 --> 01:00:17.380 earthquakes have different sizes? 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11594-0 01:00:17.450 --> 01:00:21.001 I understand that that'll vary as a function of distance from 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11594-1 01:00:21.001 --> 01:00:24.322 your source, but in terms of optimizing parameters, is it 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11594-2 01:00:24.322 --> 01:00:27.987 more important to umm you know get the right result if it comes 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11594-3 01:00:27.987 --> 01:00:28.960 10 seconds later? 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11620-0 01:00:29.070 --> 01:00:33.013 Or is a variation in predicted magnitude of about, you know, 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11620-1 01:00:33.013 --> 01:00:36.050 the factor, one with whether it's a 7 or an 8. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11625-0 01:00:36.650 --> 01:00:38.240 Is that kind of prioritized? 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11632-0 01:00:38.250 --> 01:00:40.880 Is that the discussions right? 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11665-0 01:00:40.890 --> 01:00:46.653 So timeliness is that we had priority, sure, sure, sure, that 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11665-1 01:00:46.653 --> 01:00:52.416 was partly why that two tears threshold or threshold is being 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11665-2 01:00:52.416 --> 01:00:52.880 used. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11673-0 01:00:53.450 --> 01:00:56.440 The MI4 for issuing the alert. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11679-0 01:00:56.730 --> 01:00:59.390 When you're really aiming to alert the people. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11701-0 01:01:01.620 --> 01:01:07.111 Greater and that was designed to improve the timeliness because 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11701-1 01:01:07.111 --> 01:01:09.170 for a number of reasons. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11726-0 01:01:09.180 --> 01:01:13.918 But like you're like you're getting at at is like we saw 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11726-1 01:01:13.918 --> 01:01:15.580 some of the figures. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11733-0 01:01:15.590 --> 01:01:17.640 You can under estimate the magnitude. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11751-0 01:01:17.650 --> 01:01:21.582 For example, and still manage to alert many of the people that 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11751-1 01:01:21.582 --> 01:01:23.080 you would like to alert. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11760-0 01:01:23.090 --> 01:01:25.240 Maybe you know that you would like to. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11781-0 01:01:25.510 --> 01:01:30.076 So I think in that that's really what sort of the trucks of we 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11781-1 01:01:30.076 --> 01:01:31.960 need a more complex model. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11788-0 01:01:32.010 --> 01:01:33.640 I mean, can we do it with Finder? 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11792-0 01:01:33.650 --> 01:01:34.120 Can we? 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11837-0 01:01:36.340 --> 01:01:40.154 It may be that it's just the very largest earthquakes that 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11837-1 01:01:40.154 --> 01:01:44.421 having that additional financial information would be useful, and 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11837-2 01:01:44.421 --> 01:01:47.330 that's where we're gonna probably need food. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11857-0 01:01:47.340 --> 01:01:51.698 A synthetic tests because I showed you 2 examples, but a 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11857-1 01:01:51.698 --> 01:01:54.450 data set of two is pretty small so. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11861-0 01:01:56.750 --> 01:01:57.220 Gotcha. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11868-0 01:01:57.350 --> 01:01:57.570 Thanks. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11879-0 01:01:58.870 --> 01:02:01.900 And Henry, that's just that was really nice. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11901-0 01:02:01.910 --> 01:02:05.064 And I know I think this should have known a lot more of this 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11901-1 01:02:05.064 --> 01:02:07.080 stuff was really nice, but I I didn't. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11918-0 01:02:07.090 --> 01:02:09.130 So it was really nice to see it all kind of show in one part. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11976-0 01:02:09.760 --> 01:02:13.610 Umm, I have a lot of different questions but what I was 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11976-1 01:02:13.610 --> 01:02:17.667 actually curious about was towards the beginning about the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11976-2 01:02:17.667 --> 01:02:21.723 like the magnitude drift and and this is maybe beyond like 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11976-3 01:02:21.723 --> 01:02:23.510 certain your purview, but. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11982-0 01:02:23.060 --> 01:02:26.620 I'll check with milk and Curtis about the two special seminars. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/11994-0 01:02:29.540 --> 01:02:32.190 But so the the magnitude tends to drift larger. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12011-0 01:02:32.640 --> 01:02:36.673 How does that factor into the actual development of like say 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12011-1 01:02:36.673 --> 01:02:37.400 the G fast? 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12013-0 01:02:38.370 --> 01:02:38.790 Alright. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12029-0 01:02:38.870 --> 01:02:42.390 Is that taken into account or is that sort of just added? 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12054-0 01:02:43.550 --> 01:02:49.134 So that's taken into account in a way you can 13 cents attached 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12054-1 01:02:49.134 --> 01:02:51.490 to the management estimate. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12074-0 01:02:51.500 --> 01:02:55.784 So yeah, I didn't show because of and it takes a while to 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12074-1 01:02:55.784 --> 01:02:56.670 explain the. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12096-0 01:02:56.680 --> 01:02:59.844 Basically, using that same approach it with a bunch of 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12096-1 01:02:59.844 --> 01:03:02.720 types of Caterpillar, earthquakes and noise, only 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12096-2 01:03:02.720 --> 01:03:03.640 couldn't series. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12115-0 01:03:05.510 --> 01:03:10.957 You were able to see, but for any given time step passed 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12115-1 01:03:10.957 --> 01:03:12.390 origin time it. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12121-0 01:03:12.540 --> 01:03:14.010 Does that distribution of things. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12139-0 01:03:17.050 --> 01:03:20.765 10 OK, you need this maybe two weeks higher than that before it 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12139-1 01:03:20.765 --> 01:03:22.390 starts having uncertainties. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12145-0 01:03:24.590 --> 01:03:25.040 That's right. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12179-0 01:03:25.050 --> 01:03:29.772 But additionally the the media magnitude is biased by that drip 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12179-1 01:03:29.772 --> 01:03:33.977 tray and I've never done chevious types or anything, but 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12179-2 01:03:33.977 --> 01:03:37.740 you don't do anything, you already get a magnitude 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12179-3 01:03:37.740 --> 01:03:38.920 whatever, right? 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12199-0 01:03:38.930 --> 01:03:42.857 So if I see a magnitude, whatever isn't the median 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12199-1 01:03:42.857 --> 01:03:44.320 already OK, I I hi. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12203-0 01:03:44.990 --> 01:03:45.380 Yeah, maybe. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12229-0 01:03:45.390 --> 01:03:47.625 I'm not sure what the question is, so I think it's, I think 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12229-1 01:03:47.625 --> 01:03:49.040 what you're saying is like does that. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12242-0 01:03:50.280 --> 01:03:53.455 So let's say for example that what you get request assistance 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12242-1 01:03:53.455 --> 01:03:54.120 today, right? 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12244-0 01:03:54.350 --> 01:03:54.750 Uh. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12250-0 01:03:55.390 --> 01:03:57.080 That added on it. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12256-0 01:03:57.090 --> 01:03:58.960 Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're right. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12266-0 01:03:59.110 --> 01:04:00.640 And I I was in the answer is no. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12294-0 01:04:00.650 --> 01:04:04.154 Like once you get to how to when the above, yeah, once you get 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12294-1 01:04:04.154 --> 01:04:06.990 above the noise, it's actually that the languages. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12299-0 01:04:07.160 --> 01:04:08.810 Is it accurate? 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12313-0 01:04:08.820 --> 01:04:12.990 And and I'm telling the slides and maybe I should print it out. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12341-0 01:04:13.300 --> 01:04:17.430 You can see that the new fast and then you can do this pretty 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12341-1 01:04:17.430 --> 01:04:21.160 similar results for, similar to the NGA seduction file. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12367-0 01:04:22.530 --> 01:04:27.255 So my head that is for the Kumamoto example, how come it so 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12367-1 01:04:27.255 --> 01:04:31.900 underestimated the bias should always be everything right? 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12389-0 01:04:33.830 --> 01:04:37.392 And in about packing actually like the the things are going 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12389-1 01:04:37.392 --> 01:04:39.410 through distribution of stations. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12426-0 01:04:39.890 --> 01:04:42.974 I don't have an answer for that, but if you remember back in the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12426-1 01:04:42.974 --> 01:04:45.489 very beginning of the talk when I showed the scaling 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12426-2 01:04:45.489 --> 01:04:48.431 relationship and there's a lot of scattered around, right and 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12426-3 01:04:48.431 --> 01:04:48.620 you. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12430-0 01:04:54.280 --> 01:04:54.580 I would. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12438-0 01:05:01.890 --> 01:05:03.030 Other questions from the root. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12453-0 01:05:05.670 --> 01:05:08.690 Looks like we've got a question from Gary Fruit. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12462-0 01:05:08.700 --> 01:05:09.910 Do you wanna unmute yourself, Gary? 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12464-0 01:05:12.000 --> 01:05:12.250 Yeah. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12501-0 01:05:14.510 --> 01:05:18.168 Jess, that was a great talk and congratulations on the huge 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12501-1 01:05:18.168 --> 01:05:20.972 amount of work that it represents and all the 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12501-2 01:05:20.972 --> 01:05:23.410 thoughtfulness that you've put into it. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12506-0 01:05:23.690 --> 01:05:26.590 I'm a simple question. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12524-0 01:05:27.240 --> 01:05:31.187 Subduction zone earthquakes occur offshore, and presumably 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12524-1 01:05:31.187 --> 01:05:34.130 the greatest ground motions are underwater. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12538-0 01:05:34.780 --> 01:05:37.948 What are your thoughts about using only on land stations to 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12538-1 01:05:37.948 --> 01:05:38.740 evaluate those? 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12549-0 01:05:41.140 --> 01:05:44.800 Uh, it's not ideal after so. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12551-0 01:05:44.880 --> 01:05:47.250 So I mean they. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12571-0 01:05:50.470 --> 01:05:53.470 In fact, about sure, earthquakes are just out of network. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12586-0 01:05:53.480 --> 01:05:57.328 Earthquakes in general is is a big topic of concern for shake 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12586-1 01:05:57.328 --> 01:05:57.700 alert. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12621-0 01:05:57.750 --> 01:06:01.874 We have seen already that the epic and Finder algorithms do 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12621-1 01:06:01.874 --> 01:06:05.791 have more difficulty with the offshore events, and those 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12621-2 01:06:05.791 --> 01:06:09.570 developers have been working on ways to mitigate that. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12672-0 01:06:11.470 --> 01:06:16.633 And so I think that basically it's at least the offshore data 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12672-1 01:06:16.633 --> 01:06:21.462 is better than no data and particularly for the for these 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12672-2 01:06:21.462 --> 01:06:26.958 large megathrust earthquakes, me know that the seismic algorithms 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12672-3 01:06:26.958 --> 01:06:32.120 particularly epic will saturate, the magnitude will saturate. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12739-0 01:06:32.130 --> 01:06:35.626 So if we can include the geodetic data which will provide 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12739-1 01:06:35.626 --> 01:06:39.483 a non saturating well because we don't need to filter integrate 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12739-2 01:06:39.483 --> 01:06:42.798 the data, it's directly measuring the displacement and 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12739-3 01:06:42.798 --> 01:06:46.715 doesn't put that's going to help improve the system, even though 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12739-4 01:06:46.715 --> 01:06:50.210 you're still at the disadvantage of having your stations. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12744-0 01:06:50.880 --> 01:06:52.120 It's one side of the source. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12746-0 01:06:56.540 --> 01:06:57.200 Thanks. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12758-0 01:07:01.090 --> 01:07:02.790 The other questions online are in the room. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12767-0 01:07:05.660 --> 01:07:07.070 I had one last one for you. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12771-0 01:07:07.130 --> 01:07:07.550 Umm. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12793-0 01:07:08.070 --> 01:07:12.571 What kinds of delays in timeliness do including those 3D 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12793-1 01:07:12.571 --> 01:07:14.860 fault models introduced into? 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12822-0 01:07:14.870 --> 01:07:18.138 I know like it makes it a more complex model, which must be 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12822-1 01:07:18.138 --> 01:07:21.406 more complex to solve, but like what kind of a delay are we 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12822-2 01:07:21.406 --> 01:07:22.550 really talking about? 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12833-0 01:07:22.560 --> 01:07:24.420 Is it in an order of two to three seconds? 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12843-0 01:07:24.430 --> 01:07:25.630 Is it another 5 to 10? 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12853-0 01:07:26.480 --> 01:07:28.590 No, it's not in the five to 10 range. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12858-0 01:07:28.600 --> 01:07:29.070 So. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12885-0 01:07:29.840 --> 01:07:33.955 So I guess it's a little hard to answer because the before this 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12885-1 01:07:33.955 --> 01:07:37.940 runs that I did for using MATLAB implementation, so it's not. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12904-0 01:07:37.990 --> 01:07:41.269 It's because it for sure for me like and I don't think it's 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12904-1 01:07:41.269 --> 01:07:42.580 really been blocked for. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12906-0 01:07:43.570 --> 01:07:43.920 What? 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12935-0 01:07:43.930 --> 01:07:47.449 What it could be in those time, but yeah, I mean I I would say 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12935-1 01:07:47.449 --> 01:07:50.744 on the order of a second not we're not having that in five 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12935-2 01:07:50.744 --> 01:07:51.190 seconds. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12952-0 01:07:55.150 --> 01:07:59.764 If there are no other questions going once going twice, let's 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12952-1 01:07:59.764 --> 01:08:01.550 thank our speaker again. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12961-0 01:08:06.230 --> 01:08:07.240 And we'll conclude there. 4b3088d1-ddb2-4d20-8354-c3e4192820fb/12964-0 01:08:08.500 --> 01:08:09.010 Thanks everyone.