WEBVTT 00:00:01.000 --> 00:00:17.000 Welcome back everyone we now present to you, an experiment in which we try to provide for you all the sources of support, both financial, and development, that the USGS can give you. 00:00:17.000 --> 00:00:25.000 And this is an informational session, and I hope that you ask lots and lots of questions, and it's also a way for you to meet some of the most important people when it comes to our different programs. 00:00:25.000 --> 00:00:31.000 And so our master of ceremonies will be Gavin Hayes. 00:00:31.000 --> 00:00:37.000 Thanks, Sarah! Afternoon everyone. Welcome to our session on what can USGS do for you? 00:00:37.000 --> 00:00:47.000 For those of you that don't know me. My name's Gavin Hayes I'm the Senior Science Advisor for Earthquakes and Geologic Hazards, which means that I'm the program coordinator the USGS Earthquake. 00:00:47.000 --> 00:00:53.000 Hazards Program. Thanks to Sarah and the Workshop Committee for having us here. 00:00:53.000 --> 00:01:02.000 As she said, an experiment, and to talk to you on four topics around this general theme of what USGS can do for you. We'll have contributions from Eleanour Snow. 00:01:02.000 --> 00:01:09.000 The national manager of youth and education programs with the Office of Science, Quality, and Integrity of USGS. 00:01:09.000 --> 00:01:15.000 You'll be discussing, as you can see on your screen internship programs and partnerships that support students. 00:01:15.000 --> 00:01:21.000 After that, Steve DeLong, ESC (Earthquake Science Center) Research Geologist, will talk to us about ESC 00:01:21.000 --> 00:01:28.000 Student Internship Program, and then I'll discuss our Mendenhall Research Program and the Earthquake Hazards Program 00:01:28.000 --> 00:01:37.000 external grants activities, as you'll notice that we're talking to you live, it's a little different than a lot of the other sessions that you've seen so far. 00:01:37.000 --> 00:01:42.000 So each of us will be sharing our screens and presenting whatever we want to say, and then we'll have a Q&A 00:01:42.000 --> 00:01:55.000 session at the end of that. So please reserve your questions for that slot, because since we're live, we want't be able to address any questions that come at us in the chat while we're speaking. And with that I'll kick it straight over 00:01:55.000 --> 00:02:00.000 to I don't know who will be presenting first. As I said, I'm internship programs. I don't know. 00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:03.000 Thank you. Gavin. Nice to see you all. 00:02:03.000 --> 00:02:11.000 I'm Eleanor Snow, Manager of Youth and Education Programs at USGS, and I'll start. 00:02:11.000 --> 00:02:24.000 By giving you just a quick overview of USGS, and you may be aware that we work across all of the Earth Sciences and organize our science in five mission areas, water resources. 00:02:24.000 --> 00:02:32.000 We have strem gauges on every stream in the country, we look at water quality and water quantity, and U.S. streams 00:02:32.000 --> 00:02:41.000 that's our largest group of scientists, actually. Natural hazards, which is where earthquakes falls along with volcanoes and landslides and other natural hazards. 00:02:41.000 --> 00:02:48.000 Ecosystems, not a lot of people recognize we have ecosystems in the USGS because it's not obvious in the name, 00:02:48.000 --> 00:02:58.000 but we absorb the U.S. Biological Survey, so we have a large group of people who are looking at invasive species and pathogens in plants and animal systems. 00:02:58.000 --> 00:03:03.000 Our climate adaptation and resilience groups are in ecosystems as well. 00:03:03.000 --> 00:03:16.000 Our core science is geology, rocks and mapping, and all of that or geology topics that you can think of, and then energy and minerals is really about a large part of that is about commodities all of those things we need to build up. 00:03:16.000 --> 00:03:25.000 The modern world that we live in your cell phones and your computers 00:03:25.000 --> 00:03:28.000 we're resources those things, and how available are they, 00:03:28.000 --> 00:03:37.000 and what is our green energy future look like. So, if it's on the land or just under it, where we're there. 00:03:37.000 --> 00:03:44.000 When you're doing science at a federal science agency there's a lot of immediacy to that. 00:03:44.000 --> 00:03:52.000 You can build a career. starting from right out of college all the way up to the highest level of scientists within the USGS. 00:03:52.000 --> 00:03:58.000 We work very collaboratively across those mission areas and and across science centers. 00:03:58.000 --> 00:04:05.000 And a federal science agency a lot of the work that we do is applied and people are looking for the data right when it is created. 00:04:05.000 --> 00:04:17.000 And so there's an immediacy that is lacking sometimes. In an academic research environment where you do the research and write it up, 00:04:17.000 --> 00:04:21.000 and it goes through weeks or months of review before it's published. 00:04:21.000 --> 00:04:22.000 People are waiting for the data as soon as it comes off, sometimes for a Federal science agency. 00:04:22.000 --> 00:04:31.000 But we also do fundamental science and technology research. 00:04:31.000 --> 00:04:37.000 So the wide gamut of things, and adding for his Federal science career. 00:04:37.000 --> 00:04:42.000 So what do we have for students at the undergraduate level? 00:04:42.000 --> 00:04:48.000 We have two research programs that are on a nomination basis. 00:04:48.000 --> 00:04:54.000 The cooperative summer internship program and the STEM educational partnerships Fellows. In both of those programs 00:04:54.000 --> 00:05:06.000 you need to be nominated to be an intern and for those of you coming engaged in earthquake meeting, you're more likely, geoscientist. So I'm gonna guess. 00:05:06.000 --> 00:05:07.000 So your pathway to this would be through the National Association of Geoscience 00:05:07.000 --> 00:05:27.000 Teachers. Your field camp director can nominate you for a summer internship through that program, and we consider all nominated students to be qualified and you'll be in the application pool if you apply through any of those nomination, Pathways. 00:05:27.000 --> 00:05:48.000 Most of the USGS internships are under the Federal Pathways Programs and Pathways is a word that is used across Federal government for student internships and recent jobs for recent graduates, and those are all advertised in U.S.A. jobs and I'll talk a very briefly about U.S.A. jobs in 00:05:48.000 --> 00:05:53.000 just a minute. But we also do student contracts, and that's a fairly common way for a student to work on a USGS project. In those situations, 00:05:53.000 --> 00:06:05.000 a particular project is advertised usually at your school, so through your professors you might hear about it, or through a list serve. 00:06:05.000 --> 00:06:14.000 at your department, and you apply to work on a particular project, and you'd become an independent contractor to the Federal Government, 00:06:14.000 --> 00:06:17.000 on a student contract. So you're not hired by USGS, 00:06:17.000 --> 00:06:22.000 but you're working on USGS science for us, directed by USGS scientists as an independent contractor, and you can find out more about these things on 00:06:22.000 --> 00:06:33.000 USGS.gov_ugintern will get you there. 00:06:33.000 --> 00:06:42.000 Pathways, so all Federal jobs that are open to the public are dvertised under U.S.A. 00:06:42.000 --> 00:06:47.000 Jobs, and they just launched literally this week an intern portal. 00:06:47.000 --> 00:07:01.000 So intern.usajobs.gov will get you there, but because it's brand new and just launched, you might also want to just go straight to U.S.A. jobs and look there, too, because I'm not sure everything is quite collated onto the intern page yet. 00:07:01.000 --> 00:07:07.000 I strongly encourage you if you're ever thinking about a Federal job to go to usajob.gov, 00:07:07.000 --> 00:07:08.000 create an account, build a resume there, and set notifications. 00:07:08.000 --> 00:07:20.000 Why build a resume? Because that's how the first person to see your application who's somebody from HR 00:07:20.000 --> 00:07:28.000 is used to looking at, and for information. So if you upload your own formatted resume, they might not find the information they're looking for. 00:07:28.000 --> 00:07:29.000 You're just better off using the resume builder because that's the format people are looking for. 00:07:29.000 --> 00:07:48.000 And ignore what your Career Center says about a two-page resume, be expansive about your experiences in that. Set notifications because you want to know when jobs are advertised, they're always addicted for a period of time. 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:52.000 And sometimes that's a short period of time. So you want to hear about them when they happen. 00:07:52.000 --> 00:08:05.000 Read the vacancy announcement very carefully, pay particular attention to the eligibility requirements into the required documents, and make sure you include all of those things in your application. 00:08:05.000 --> 00:08:09.000 Be sure that your resume is explicit about how you, how you are eligible for that job. 00:08:09.000 --> 00:08:15.000 For example, let's say that it says that you need to have some training in induced seismicity and you have a job. 00:08:15.000 --> 00:08:28.000 You have a class that you took called the "Rise of Earthquakes in Texas and Oakland." 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:31.000 Well, you and I both know that's about induced seismicity. 00:08:31.000 --> 00:08:32.000 But that HR person who looks at it doesn't know that. 00:08:32.000 --> 00:08:44.000 So you need to say in your resume, my class called the "Rise of Earthquakes in Texas and Oklahoma" is a course in induced seismicity, and therefore I meet these requirements. 00:08:44.000 --> 00:08:57.000 It's really important that you be explicit about that because you want your resume to get past that HR person into the person who's doing the hiring and the other tip that I will give you is about time, two things about time. 00:08:57.000 --> 00:09:15.000 If you see something in an ad that says it will be open for a week, or until the first 100 applications are received, assume that first 100 will be in the first day, and and get on it right away; and the second thing is, if it says you need a year's experience be sure that your 00:09:15.000 --> 00:09:16.000 resume indicates 365 days. 00:09:16.000 --> 00:09:20.000 If you say I did this from January to December, HR 00:09:20.000 --> 00:09:27.000 is going to say we don't know when in January we don't know when in December we'll give you credit for half of each month. 00:09:27.000 --> 00:09:30.000 so that's 11 months. You're not qualified. 00:09:30.000 --> 00:09:37.000 Be sure that you are explicit, that you meet the time requirements. Again, because you want that resume to get past that 00:09:37.000 --> 00:09:49.000 HR person and onto that desk. I'm happy to give you any other tips if you're working with the Federal resume, feel free to reach out and ask. 00:09:49.000 --> 00:09:55.000 For graduate students, USGS works with the National Science Foundation, and this is 00:09:55.000 --> 00:09:57.000 21013 is the program announcement number for NSF 00:09:57.000 --> 00:10:13.000 intern, very easy to remember, because they call it intern. The intern program is a supplemental grants program up to $55,000 for 6 months to go spend time somewhere else, and we hope you come to USGS, 00:10:13.000 --> 00:10:14.000 but you can actually go just about anywhere with that money. 00:10:14.000 --> 00:10:18.000 It has to be tied to an existing NSF 00:10:18.000 --> 00:10:22.000 Grant, so you'll be working with the person you want to work with at NSF 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:26.000 to outline a project, and your advisor, who has a current NSF 00:10:26.000 --> 00:10:31.000 grant, you can apply this money to. But the great thing about this intern program is that it's NSF-wide funding pool. 00:10:31.000 --> 00:10:44.000 So the person who runs the, the program manager at NSF 00:10:44.000 --> 00:10:48.000 in earthquake studies, has a pot of money that they give out to researchers for grants. 00:10:48.000 --> 00:11:02.000 This $55,000 doesn't come from that pot of money, they're not spending their own money to say yes to you, and so they say yes to most people. It's a very, very high funding rate on these supplemental grants. 00:11:02.000 --> 00:11:03.000 And we love having grad students spending time at USGS. 00:11:03.000 --> 00:11:11.000 So really encourage you to take advantage of that. 00:11:11.000 --> 00:11:12.000 Couple of other things I just want you to be aware of, 00:11:12.000 --> 00:11:26.000 they're not USGS programs, but we engage with them, the Virtual Student Federal Service is a State Department program that is open to all Federal agencies. Agencies advertise a job, 00:11:26.000 --> 00:11:27.000 and you volunteer to work on that from school, during the year, or yeah, or from home. 00:11:27.000 --> 00:11:31.000 10 to 15 h a week, there's thousands of projects. 00:11:31.000 --> 00:11:42.000 They're very fun and cool, and apply in July is the catch phrase for the Virtual Student Federal Service. 00:11:42.000 --> 00:11:54.000 So, think about looking next July. This year USGS has a 107 VSFS Interns across USGS working on a variety of things. 00:11:54.000 --> 00:12:01.000 And we have university partnerships, and some of you probably are aware of this because you might be on a campus like Caltech or Colorado School of Mines that has a USGS office on or adjacent to campus. 00:12:01.000 --> 00:12:08.000 So we do a lot of work in collaboration with the campuses that we sit on. 00:12:08.000 --> 00:12:23.000 In addition, if you or your friends are interested in other kinds of fields besides earthquakes, we have climate adaptation science centers that are university consortia centered on U.S. 00:12:23.000 --> 00:12:24.000 college campuses, and that engage USGS 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:38.000 scientists as faculty members, studying climate adaptation. The cooperative research units, again, are USGS 00:12:38.000 --> 00:12:43.000 scientists who are faculty members at 40 to 43 different universities. 00:12:43.000 --> 00:12:57.000 and Fish and Wildlife and the Water Resources Research Institutes are the same. USGS scientists who are faculty members studying Water on about 47 different campuses around the country. 00:12:57.000 --> 00:13:12.000 So, if climate or efficient wildlife or Water are your interests, there are USGS scientists who are faculty members who can engage you with those things, and that's a very quick overview. 00:13:12.000 --> 00:13:18.000 I'm gonna pause. So there's time for you to hear from others, and then questions at the end. 00:13:18.000 --> 00:13:21.000 That's wonderful. Thanks, Eleanor. Next up will be Steve Delong, discussing 00:13:21.000 --> 00:13:33.000 ESC (Earthquake Science Center) student internships. 00:13:33.000 --> 00:13:37.000 Hi there! Holler, if you have any problems, seeing or hearing. I'm gonna describe the Pathways. 00:13:38.000 --> 00:13:44.000 Internship Program that exists within the Earthquake Science Center and in this slide 00:13:44.000 --> 00:13:48.000 you'll see some of the folks who do the behind the scenes work to make this happen. 00:13:48.000 --> 00:14:02.000 And I shall also acknowledge, Eleanor Snow, our previous speaker, who provided us with us a lot of wisdom and guidance, as we conceived of this program, and really helped us get off the ground and make it a success. 00:14:02.000 --> 00:14:09.000 So [noise] 00:14:09.000 --> 00:14:14.000 That's gonna take me just a second to. Did you guys hear the sound? 00:14:14.000 --> 00:14:15.000 Yeah, we we could hear it, Steve. 00:14:15.000 --> 00:14:18.000 Rats. 00:14:18.000 --> 00:14:21.000 You might want to do it for all slides simultaneously. 00:14:21.000 --> 00:14:24.000 Yeah, I wonder how I do that. Or I'll just do it 00:14:24.000 --> 00:14:32.000 not in presenter mode. 00:14:32.000 --> 00:14:34.000 John, do you have a quick suggestion for how to... 00:14:34.000 --> 00:14:37.000 Yeah, I would just go through it just like you are right now. 00:14:38.000 --> 00:14:41.000 It looks fine, just everybody that's looking ignore the slight left side of your screen. 00:14:41.000 --> 00:14:43.000 Alright sorry about that. This is a rehash of an old presentation that had to have a soundtrack. 00:14:43.000 --> 00:14:55.000 So we're just gonna go like this. Okay. So in 2020, 00:14:55.000 --> 00:15:11.000 the Earthquake Science Center created a program to hire students really from colleges, universities near USGS offices, especially the institutions that may not have as much access to such opportunities as the larger research institutions, and so our efforts have included recruitment hiring our students from 2-year and 00:15:11.000 --> 00:15:14.000 4-year colleges and universities and graduate schools. And to be clear these are Federal jobs, 00:15:14.000 --> 00:15:24.000 they're paid and benefits eligible. In 2021, our first summer, which was sort of the height of the pandemic or when everyone was stuck at home, 00:15:24.000 --> 00:15:28.000 we hired 21 students. I hired 14 in 2022. 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:31.000 Some of these students still work with the USGS and we're going to continue this program for next summer. 00:15:31.000 --> 00:15:37.000 So, as Eleanor mentioned there are other mechanisms to work for USGS 00:15:37.000 --> 00:15:38.000 as a student. These include the NAGT 00:15:38.000 --> 00:15:45.000 Program, Student Service Contracts, the NSF programs that Eleanor detailed. 00:15:45.000 --> 00:15:46.000 And this program is run by USGS staff in the Earthquake 00:15:46.000 --> 00:15:58.000 Science Center as a grassroots activity. So this is voluntary duty to to put this program together and make it happen with that great support from the USGS 00:15:58.000 --> 00:15:59.000 HR Staff and the Earthquake Science Center leadership. 00:15:59.000 --> 00:16:14.000 And of course, the secret to the success of the program are the mentors that are willing to take the time to work with students and of course, the students who come to our Center and do such a great job with their research projects. 00:16:14.000 --> 00:16:15.000 So the Pathways Program what we're doing this year 00:16:15.000 --> 00:16:19.000 we've solicited employees to in the Center to mentor intern projects. 00:16:19.000 --> 00:16:22.000 And this is really not just research. I said, research in my previous sentence is not just a research internship. 00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:30.000 This is really supporting all activities within the Center. The science center leadership has provided funding to support this program. 00:16:30.000 --> 00:16:44.000 Little bit of jargon here from the Center level, but then, for students to stay on longer, often individual projects or scientists will have funding to do that. 00:16:44.000 --> 00:16:48.000 We recruit from institutions with diverse student populations near USGS offices, and not just from geology and geophysics 00:16:48.000 --> 00:16:54.000 departments. Interns will be in the USGS 00:16:54.000 --> 00:17:04.000 offices in Menlo, Moffett Field, Seattle, and Pasadena, and as part of this we provide cohort building activities, mentor support, intern support from the Center and career development 00:17:04.000 --> 00:17:09.000 during the summer months. And interns are eligible for continuation as Pathways Interns into the school year and conversion to term and permanent employees within the USGS 00:17:09.000 --> 00:17:18.000 without advertising the position. 00:17:18.000 --> 00:17:23.000 So this retention of students can help us 00:17:23.000 --> 00:17:26.000 address staffing challenges, and we've hired a total towards 35 students so far, mostly remote. 00:17:26.000 --> 00:17:37.000 In 2021, partial mode in 2022, and so, as I mentioned, some continued so as of a couple of months ago, 7 students from the initial summer still work for the USGS. 00:17:37.000 --> 00:17:54.000 Two are now on permanent positions, and one is on a four-year term position from last summer as of a couple of months ago; 9 students still work for USGS. And so it's not our primary goal of the program which is simply to provide early careers 00:17:54.000 --> 00:17:57.000 exposure, earthquake science for a diverse group of students, 00:17:57.000 --> 00:18:02.000 but it is nice that we can find students and keep them within our staff as it gets more and more challenging 00:18:02.000 --> 00:18:18.000 to hire in the Federal system. So I'm just gonna run through a few examples of some of the experiences that interns have had. So in our hi-res geophysical survey group, Ahkayla Gomez and Delton Samuel are two interns, both 00:18:18.000 --> 00:18:22.000 have given presentations at the 2022 SSA 00:18:22.000 --> 00:18:26.000 Meeting. Delton also presented at the National Association of Black Geoscientists meeting. Ahkayla presented at SACNAS meeting and both of these interns have USGS data releases and Open-File Report authorships. 00:18:26.000 --> 00:18:35.000 Delton is now a PhD student at LSU and 00:18:35.000 --> 00:18:40.000 Ahkayala is continuing towards a BS 00:18:40.000 --> 00:18:50.000 at Cal State East Bay and really both of these interns we got to know and they assisted with a wide-range of field projects at the USGS. 00:18:50.000 --> 00:18:56.000 Another example, geophysical site response, [indiscernible] Jose Game, Christina 00:18:56.000 --> 00:18:59.000 Kitamikado and Tara Nye were all interns. 00:18:59.000 --> 00:19:02.000 They're all co-authors on a date release. And then there's a large number of presentations that these students have given at SSA 00:19:02.000 --> 00:19:15.000 and SCEC meetings in 2021 and 2022 on site response, and related topics. 00:19:15.000 --> 00:19:20.000 And you can see them having a nice time at SCEC there in the photo. 00:19:20.000 --> 00:19:30.000 Gabe Paris came from Portland State they worked on operational earthquake forecasting and they developed software to analyze and visualize earthquake aftershocks. 00:19:30.000 --> 00:19:35.000 I believe Andy Michael use some of these tools in his talk on the Ferndale earthquakes, 00:19:35.000 --> 00:19:45.000 maybe a couple of days ago. Gabe is now a software developer at the Alaska Earthquake Science Center and has published their work in SRL. 00:19:45.000 --> 00:19:50.000 As you can see in the upper right there 00:19:50.000 --> 00:20:05.000 Up in the Pacific Northwest the Earthquake Geology group, Garrett Huddleston, was an intern last summer, and use internship to plan a paleoseismic study, and that trench is now sort of the focus of his MS thesis work 00:20:05.000 --> 00:20:06.000 at Central Washington University, and you see some photos of them excavating into the Dead 00:20:06.000 --> 00:20:14.000 Coyote fault near Ellensburg, Washington here. 00:20:14.000 --> 00:20:31.000 And then finally Javier Garcia was a student from Puerto Rico, who worked on InSAR interferometry and presented results at the 2022 AGU meeting in Chicago on using SAR interferograms in earthquake swarms 00:20:31.000 --> 00:20:32.000 and in partitioning the aseismic and seismic 00:20:32.000 --> 00:20:39.000 moment release. So these are some of the shiny examples of successes. 00:20:39.000 --> 00:20:45.000 But there's many more examples of successes. Students really worked across research and earthquake monitoring. 00:20:45.000 --> 00:20:51.000 They develop skills and instrumentation GIS computer coding research dissemination of research results, public speaking, 00:20:51.000 --> 00:20:52.000 and of course, got to know the joys and challenges of working for a Federal Government agencies. 00:20:52.000 --> 00:20:58.000 An interest come to us with a really wide range of experience, and our matched with tasks and projects that lead the career development really broad sense. 00:20:58.000 --> 00:21:15.000 It's not a research focused internship necessarily, some interns are more focused on technical tasks that support research and network operations rather than leading their own research projects. 00:21:15.000 --> 00:21:20.000 So really motivated to find students for a wide range of departments beyond just Earth science. 00:21:20.000 --> 00:21:29.000 So in the summer we had weekly intern meetings, thanks to Annmarie Baltay, who really took the lead on these held as hybrid events for folks in Menlo/Moffett Field 00:21:29.000 --> 00:21:30.000 and beyond. You know, introductions, people learned about the Earthquake Science Center and the USGS, 00:21:30.000 --> 00:21:52.000 just more broadly, met a lot of the staff, and learn about projects in the Science Center, and then each of that interns were given the opportunity to give talks about some of the work that they got involved in. Last summer all the interns converged on Menlo/Moffett for a couple of days or actually for 00:21:52.000 --> 00:21:54.000 a week, really, with a couple of days of sort of program time. 00:21:54.000 --> 00:21:57.000 But other times just to meet folks and work. And we did a field trip, 00:21:57.000 --> 00:22:12.000 you can see in the left there we start on the Hayward Fault, looked at creeping faults, and then traversed over looked at instrumentation at the USGS sites in the foothills and then went up into the mountains, where the San Andreas fault is in the Santa 00:22:12.000 --> 00:22:18.000 Cruz mountains, and just saw a wide range of USGS activities on that field trip. 00:22:18.000 --> 00:22:22.000 And this also included interns that came in from other programs and whatnot 00:22:22.000 --> 00:22:26.000 so isn't just the Pathways group. 00:22:26.000 --> 00:22:43.000 And then another day with spent touring USGS facilities looking at the rock lab, the Rock Physics lab, where they create an earthquake and looking at the network operations where they're able to see the seismometer measurement of the students walking around the seismometer that they had made the 00:22:43.000 --> 00:22:45.000 previous day. 00:22:45.000 --> 00:22:46.000 So the program feedback has been overwhelming positive. 00:22:46.000 --> 00:22:47.000 We collect feedback from interns, mentors, supervisors. 00:22:47.000 --> 00:22:52.000 Obviously some challenges of hired and onboarding within the Federal bureaucracy some issues with communication organization. 00:22:52.000 --> 00:23:04.000 You know, scientists grassroots-run program and we use these to shape and improve the program. 00:23:04.000 --> 00:23:08.000 If there some metrics on how this affects workforce diversity, for me 00:23:08.000 --> 00:23:12.000 the question is, can USGS look more like the communities that we serve? 00:23:12.000 --> 00:23:20.000 And some anecdotes, there's a little bit of data, we've hired five veterans through this program. Of the interns that we hired, 00:23:20.000 --> 00:23:34.000 40% are people of color. This compares to 25% in the Earthquake Science Center as a whole, 22% in the USGS-wide Pathways Intern Program and the goal of 32.5% within the USGS. This is a result of targeted 00:23:34.000 --> 00:23:38.000 recruiting of students from institutions with a diverse student populations. 00:23:38.000 --> 00:23:41.000 We are motivated and recruit qualified students from a wide range of institutions, and we want to benefit the students and 00:23:41.000 --> 00:23:50.000 the USGS and develop stronger relationships between the USGS and academic institutions near our offices. 00:23:50.000 --> 00:23:56.000 And this program can really be used to fill vacancies for workforce and succession planning. 00:23:56.000 --> 00:24:12.000 And if you'd like to learn more, if you're interested in being a participant in this program or learning more about how we recruit, feel free to reach out to me or email the email on your screen there. And that's what I have thanks for listening. 00:24:12.000 --> 00:24:20.000 Wonderful. Thank you, Steve, and now I will share my screen. 00:24:20.000 --> 00:24:23.000 Hopefully, you can see that? 00:24:23.000 --> 00:24:24.000 Yes. 00:24:24.000 --> 00:24:35.000 Thanks again everyone. As a reminder, I'm going be talking about USGS Mendenhall Research Fellowship Programs and Earthquake Hazards Program, and 00:24:35.000 --> 00:24:40.000 External grants activities. Unfortunately, Jill Frank, External Research Coordinator couldn't be with us today.\, 00:24:40.000 --> 00:24:44.000 So I'll be showing some things for her. 00:24:44.000 --> 00:24:46.000 Hopefully, I'll be brief, so we can still have some good time for Q&A. 00:24:46.000 --> 00:24:52.000 First off I'll start with the Mendenhall Program. 00:24:52.000 --> 00:24:53.000 Previously, this was called the Mendenhall Post-doctoral Research Fellowship Program. 00:24:53.000 --> 00:25:06.000 It provides research opportunities to recent PhD graduates to come and work with USGS scientist on priority topics for USGS. 00:25:06.000 --> 00:25:13.000 It is a USGS-wide program. I think it's most heavily leveraged within the Natural Hazards , 00:25:13.000 --> 00:25:26.000 Mission Area that includes the Earthquake Hazards Program and our other geologic houses disciplines, including volcano, landslide, coastal and marine, and geomagnetism. 00:25:26.000 --> 00:25:31.000 These programs particularly use the Mendenhall Fellowships 00:25:31.000 --> 00:25:37.000 in addition to the opportunities that they provide, both to our scientists and to the Mendenhall Fellows that come in. It's a been a fantastic recruitment mechanism into our research 00:25:37.000 --> 00:25:54.000 grant positions, while, as I said, at the same time facilitating that cutting-edge research and a more nimble manner than where otherwise able to achieve through permanent [indiscernible]. 00:25:54.000 --> 00:26:00.000 Okay. Mendenhall projects come with 2 years of guaranteed funding. 00:26:00.000 --> 00:26:05.000 They are extendable for another 2 years, depending on funding availability. 00:26:05.000 --> 00:26:13.000 As I said, they've been an extremely successful recruitment strategy for permanent positions across our earthquake-related science centers. 00:26:13.000 --> 00:26:18.000 Many of our our current permanent scientists were once Mendenhall Fellows. 00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:29.000 There are currently 9 EHP (Earthquake Hazards Program) related Mendenhalls across the Earthquake Science Center and 5 of the Geologic Hazards Science Center in Golden, Colorado. 00:26:29.000 --> 00:26:47.000 There are another 7 Mendenhall's in Golden within the Landslide Hazards and Geomagnetism programs. I'll note here that Center's also hire fixed-term postdoc-like positions that don't have the Mendenhall title but are otherwise fairly equivalent. 00:26:47.000 --> 00:26:54.000 These come up when there are surges in funding or specific needs within our program to regions that the Center's meet. 00:26:54.000 --> 00:27:07.000 For example, recent positions associated with the upcoming 50 State National Seismic Hazard Model needs or funding Center's might receive, like PG&E 00:27:07.000 --> 00:27:10.000 for ESC. 00:27:10.000 --> 00:27:11.000 As part of our Round 19 Mendenhall program 00:27:11.000 --> 00:27:17.000 about 2 years ago 4 Mendenhall projects were funded across HP. 00:27:17.000 --> 00:27:18.000 With full or partial Natural Hazards Mission Area or earthquake program support. 00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:40.000 That was, I think, 2 at each Science Center, and both science centers were able to support a further Mendenhall on top of those with their own Center funding. In Round 20, which close about a year ago there was a a large number of earthquake related research 00:27:40.000 --> 00:28:02.000 opportunities, but just 6 of the 13 advertised opportunities received qualified applicants. Out of those six, 4 new Mendenhall's came onboard, and so, after that Round 20 process, we were really quite concerned that we hadn't received as many applications as we have in the 00:28:02.000 --> 00:28:08.000 past and we undertook a review and internal review to improve the program for the future. 00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:27.000 That has led to a revised timeline for opportunity development, advertisement, submission, and review, with the goal of being able to issue earlier offers to be more competitive with other Federal intention programs. Decrease the work burden on our internal scientists that act as research 00:28:27.000 --> 00:28:32.000 advisors, and particularly around that busy end-of-year period. 00:28:32.000 --> 00:28:42.000 So that resulted in Round 21, all the opportunities that are shown here, and this just closed in November of 2022. 00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:51.000 We have 15 research opportunities across the Earthquake Hazards Program of the 28 that were advertised across our hazards programs. 00:28:51.000 --> 00:29:08.000 We received 24 applicants for those 15 opportunities just two of the opportunities did not receive applicants, and for the first time this year, as I'm highlighting there at the bottom of the slide, in an effort that was spearheaded by Andy Michael at 00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:17.000 ESC . We advertised a general opportunity that was intended to attract those applicants that don't fit neatly into any one of the other advertised positions. 00:29:17.000 --> 00:29:25.000 So instead here applicants are able to construct their own proposal in coordination with earthquake scientists. 00:29:25.000 --> 00:29:28.000 As long as the subject is well aligned with program priorities, that particular opportunity received 00:29:28.000 --> 00:29:39.000 the largest number of applicants across all of the opportunities in our has its missionary so I think was quite successful. 00:29:39.000 --> 00:29:43.000 The review process for all these applications is ongoing. 00:29:43.000 --> 00:29:51.000 We hope to begin offers later this month or an early march, and we're excited that we have increase the number of applicants. 00:29:51.000 --> 00:30:00.000 Again, although I think we still need to do some work to ensure that we get more applicants per research opportunity. 00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:02.000 So kind of some summarize Mendenhalls. 00:30:02.000 --> 00:30:04.000 Most Mendenhall opportunities are now advertised in August for submission by early November. 00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:15.000 That offers in February to March, as I said, and start dates over the duration of the year that offers are made. Off cycle 00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:28.000 opportunities are also advertised throughout the year. So this is when projects have their own secured source of funding to support such positions and don't need to compete in that kind of general pool 00:30:28.000 --> 00:30:31.000 that's the fixed annual timeline. 00:30:31.000 --> 00:30:39.000 And finally, one of the most important points that I wanted to impress is that potential applicants are really encouraged to work with USGS 00:30:39.000 --> 00:30:51.000 researchers, as they develop their proposals. [oops went the wrong way] Historically the proposals that have been most successful are those that have been developed in consultation with USGS 00:30:51.000 --> 00:30:57.000 scientists and that are well aligned with either program or Natural Hazards 00:30:57.000 --> 00:31:06.000 Missionary priorities. Okay, so moving on from Mendenhall's, I wanted to also briefly highlight another recruitment opportunity in the Earthquake Program. 00:31:06.000 --> 00:31:22.000 Steve DeLong nicely presented some information on the ESC Internship Program, which has been a great way to improve recruitment in our West Coast offices. For anyone interested in activities at our other science center, the Geologic Hazards Science Center in Golden, 00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:27.000 Colorado. Their intention program is now open for applications to work on a variety of interesting projects 00:31:27.000 --> 00:31:30.000 this summer. As it says here, to see typically highs around 30 students each year 00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:51.000 in projects ranging from a seismic hazard engineering and risk, seismic source and ground motion characterization, earthquake monitoring, software development is a good chunk of what GHS does and then, as I've mentioned, previously as well, that landslide and 00:31:51.000 --> 00:32:04.000 Geomagnetic Hazard Programs. You can feel free to contact me about this or I've listed the GHSC deputy director, Brian Shiro, for more details. All recruitment opportunities for EHP 00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:12.000 and USGS more broadly, or most, I should say, as Eleanor mentioned, are advertised and 00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:14.000 accept applications through the USA jobs portal. So, as Eleanor did, I will encourage anyone interested in working with USGS 00:32:14.000 --> 00:32:29.000 to establish an account there to get that profile setup and to look out for opportunities and sign up for notifications. 00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:30.000 Okay. Now on to the EHP Grants Program. 00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:39.000 This is sometimes called the NEHRP Grants Program because authority to operate 00:32:39.000 --> 00:32:50.000 this comes from the National Earthquake Hazards Reduction Program. Congressional authorization that establishes our four agency partnership with FEMA, NYST and NSF. 00:32:50.000 --> 00:32:53.000 This is a snapshot of our Grant's website. 00:32:53.000 --> 00:32:58.000 And, as you can see here, it provides our grants are intended to provide support for external research 00:32:58.000 --> 00:33:04.000 that assists EHP in achieving our programmatic goals to mitigate earthquake losses. 00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:14.000 I mentioned to you Jill Frank before, she's our associate coordinator for external research and leads our Grants Program and assisted by [indiscernible] 00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:24.000 Skinner. Jill's contact details are shown there on the grant's web page, and she's our first point of contact for questions about grant and related activities. 00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:28.000 But you can, of course, ask me here today as well. 00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:34.000 Our Grant's Program is the largest in the USGS, we allocate typically 4 to 5 million dollars a year for grants across all of our our different panels. 00:33:34.000 --> 00:33:54.000 Funding opportunities are distributed across 10 panels as listed here, 5 are regional northern California, southern California, the Pacific Northwest, and Alaska, Inter-Mountain West, and the Central/Eastern U.S., 00:33:54.000 --> 00:34:04.000 and 5 are topical, Earthquake Early Warning, earthquake rupture forecasting, earthquake source processes, ground motion research and hazards impact in risk. 00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:25.000 Note that this year for the upcoming cycle for those topical [indiscernible] on new after a recent reshuffle that saw earthquake rupture forecasting in earthquake source processes replaced earthquake physics. Hazard impacts in risk replaced engineering seismology and impacts in 00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:30.000 ground motion research replaced our national panel. Every year, 00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:35.000 We released a a document of research priorities for the upcoming Grant cycle 00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:39.000 that comes out in mid-march, when the Grant's period opens, and that period closes again towards the end of May. 00:34:39.000 --> 00:34:49.000 But at any time on our website, as shown there, you can see the priorities from the previous year. 00:34:49.000 --> 00:35:06.000 So that is a good resource. If you ever wanna see what our priorities are when it's not that open Grant's period. And finally, I'm showing here some details of our proposal submission and funding statistics over the past few cycles of no and little concern 00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:25.000 to us, is a bit of declining trends since 2020, when we received the largest number of proposals ever close to 250 to 2021, when we received a lot less and 2022 when we received fewer again so we've speculated that this 00:35:25.000 --> 00:35:31.000 trend is driven, somewhat by the pandemic and simultaneous rise in the number of no cost extensions 00:35:31.000 --> 00:35:38.000 we've been asked for, but would, of course, appreciate any feedback you will have on the drivers for that decline as well. 00:35:38.000 --> 00:35:44.000 Our funding has stayed pretty consistent. We funded 57 proposals in the FY21 cycle 2 years ago, 60 proposals in 00:35:44.000 --> 00:35:49.000 2022 and 31 so far in FY23 00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:50.000 that we've yet to make our final funding decisions 00:35:50.000 --> 00:36:01.000 having just received our annual budget a month ago, so that process will be finalized soon and hopefully 00:36:01.000 --> 00:36:08.000 final notifications will go out in mid- to late-February, maybe early March. 00:36:08.000 --> 00:36:15.000 Of note to this particular group is that last point in our last cycle we've received only 6 proposals within the northern California panel. 00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:26.000 So we're very hopeful that through this engagement we can improve that over the next cycle, and that's all I have for you today. 00:36:26.000 --> 00:36:36.000 So hopefully, leaving now time for Q&A I'll leave you with a slide of useful resources and information, and look forward to hearing from you in 00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:50.000 our discussion section. So I think we have about 15 min left, and please raise your virtual hand, to ask either me or Eleanor, or Steve any questions. 00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:57.000 Thanks. Everyone. 00:36:57.000 --> 00:37:02.000 So who has a question? Don, go ahead. 00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:08.000 Hi, Gavin! Those are all wonderful presentations. A question for Eleanor and I have to apologize because Steve may have addressed this, but I had a phone call. 00:37:08.000 --> 00:37:17.000 So I missed the bulk of his presentation, but our statistics kept on. 00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:25.000 how many undergrad and grad interns end up actually working for the USGS as employees after their graduation? 00:37:25.000 --> 00:37:34.000 So they're incomplete. And that's one thing we're really working on this year is trying to get a better handle on that. 00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:40.000 Actually our director, a former USGS intern through our program and is currently the director. 00:37:40.000 --> 00:37:54.000 We have about that I know about 40 or 50, but I don't know if that's a complete list. Thank you. 00:37:54.000 --> 00:37:55.000 Oh, including me, by the way, I was an intern at USGS 00:37:55.000 --> 00:38:04.000 in the Earthquake Science Center, working on the Parkfield project long time ago. 00:38:04.000 --> 00:38:13.000 I was also an intern in the USGS and Mendenhall postdoc. 00:38:13.000 --> 00:38:17.000 Other questions, for the group. 00:38:17.000 --> 00:38:23.000 I'm seeing some in the chat that I'm not doing a very good job of keeping track of. 00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:26.000 Andy asked the question for the next external funding cycle. 00:38:26.000 --> 00:38:32.000 When is funding expected to start? Thank you 00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:39.000 Andy. That's a great question, so the submissions will be from March to May. 00:38:39.000 --> 00:38:58.000 Those proposals will be reviewed in summer panels in the kind of June to August timeframe, and that funding would then start with the new fiscal year anytime from October 2023, though the grants, period is typically they 00:38:58.000 --> 00:39:08.000 start the beginning 2024 00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:13.000 And it's great to see that there are so many interns on the call. 00:39:13.000 --> 00:39:18.000 When will applications be accepted for ESC 2023 internships? 00:39:18.000 --> 00:39:19.000 Steve. 00:39:19.000 --> 00:39:23.000 Very soon, so let us know if you're interested. 00:39:23.000 --> 00:39:36.000 Send us a note, and we'll send you the info. 00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:42.000 Other questions from the group. 00:39:42.000 --> 00:39:48.000 So Julian just posted a question of getting that elusive long-term job at the USGS. 00:39:48.000 --> 00:39:58.000 So the Pathways Internship is one of the few mechanisms in which you can actually be converted from an intern, 00:39:58.000 --> 00:40:01.000 A student intern into a term or a permanent position. 00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:03.000 So it's really, it's a, I think, unique in the Federal service in that way. 00:40:03.000 --> 00:40:10.000 So both for those of you who are in the USGS 00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:14.000 and are thinking about staffing it's a great mechanism for that. 00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:17.000 And if you're not in the USGS, but what would like to be 00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:21.000 it's a right mechanism. The post-doc question is a little bit stickier answer. 00:40:21.000 --> 00:40:25.000 There's no formal mechanism to change from a postdoc, Mendenhall postdoc 00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:28.000 to a permanent employee. 00:40:28.000 --> 00:40:47.000 But you know many of us could raise our hands as permanent employees who used to be Mendenhall postdocs, and often you get a lot of specific experiences which makes you a stronger applicant for a permanent position. 00:40:47.000 --> 00:40:48.000 And Steve. Was that an answer to Julian's question about whether there's an advantage to being an intern? 00:40:48.000 --> 00:40:53.000 Yeah. 00:40:53.000 --> 00:40:54.000 Yeah, that's right. And so some of it is just about, you know, it's like anything in the world. 00:40:54.000 --> 00:40:56.000 It's about networking and getting to know people. 00:40:56.000 --> 00:41:05.000 So the best way to get a job at the USGS is to get to get to know the USGS, 00:41:05.000 --> 00:41:09.000 and that can lead to good things 00:41:09.000 --> 00:41:19.000 Steve, we have a question from Anna Maria about opportunities for students based in a university outside of the US 00:41:19.000 --> 00:41:26.000 and a non-US citizen. We we get that question all the time Anna Maria. 00:41:26.000 --> 00:41:34.000 It's very difficult, I will say, to hire into Federal positions, non-US citizens, though you might note from my accent that I was originally a non-US citizen when I started with USGS. 00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:44.000 So it's not impossible, but it's rare, certainly, within direct hires, and there are contracting opportunities that make things a little more easier. 00:41:44.000 --> 00:41:56.000 But it's difficult. 00:41:56.000 --> 00:42:00.000 Sarah, you have your hand up. 00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:05.000 So, as you're here filling in for Jill Frank's on the funding side, 00:42:05.000 --> 00:42:11.000 it seems like every year on the funding side, we get a lot of questions related to like how much can you propose, or does it matter whether you propose for 1 year or 2 years? 00:42:11.000 --> 00:42:17.000 Is there anything you can offer guidance on that? 00:42:17.000 --> 00:42:30.000 Sure, Sarah, thanks. I think there's generally a perception that we only award small grants, and that larger grants are not favored. 00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:47.000 I suppose that's not entirely untrue, because we do have a limited amount of funding, but I think if a larger proposal is well justified, then we can certainly award it. Typically grants are in the range of somewhere between about $60k and a 00:42:47.000 --> 00:43:06.000 $100k for a one year proposal, but, as I said, we can go beyond that, and we can provide 2 years of funding up to 2 years of funding but often that is a discussion point for panels as well, the priorities of whether a second year of funding is needed versus 00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:11.000 priorities of funding some of the other grants in the proposal pool. 00:43:11.000 --> 00:43:18.000 So we will be including updated guidance in our priorities announcements 00:43:18.000 --> 00:43:25.000 when that comes out in March of this year, related to those questions. 00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:37.000 And Kevin, Rachel asked if there's opportunities similar to internships for recent graduates, apart from just regular posted jobs. Not that I know of. 00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:43.000 Not similar kinds of things. Many of our interns are recent graduates. 00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:51.000 They apply while they're still a student, and by the time they start the job they have graduated. Within 00:43:51.000 --> 00:43:57.000 USA jobs there is a Pathway for recent graduates within 2 years of graduation. 00:43:57.000 --> 00:44:03.000 You can apply for a recent graduate jobs and those are also convertible to full-time permanent employee employment. 00:44:03.000 --> 00:44:08.000 So there's a good opportunity for recent graduates. 00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:12.000 If you've already graduated. 00:44:12.000 --> 00:44:13.000 Let me just tag on to that. Our internship program in the ESC 00:44:13.000 --> 00:44:20.000 you're only eligible to apply if you are a student, and once you graduate, you're no longer eligible, though, you can be converted. 00:44:20.000 --> 00:44:35.000 There are other Pathways positions that are called Recent Graduate Pathways opportunities, we haven't tended to use those in our Science Center, but they do exist at the Survey. 00:44:35.000 --> 00:44:45.000 And then there are these things that we've alluded to call Student Services Contracts, and those students up to 2 years post-graduation are eligible for Student Service Contracts. 00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:46.000 So the best thing to do is to make contact with a person at the USGS 00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:57.000 you'd like to work with and and learn what sort of opportunity they might be able to present to you. 00:44:57.000 --> 00:44:58.000 And I... 00:44:58.000 --> 00:45:07.000 And Elizabeth Cochran made a nice point that there are many people who work with USGS who did not have a postdoc or an internship. I've hired many people who have never worked with USGS before. 00:45:07.000 --> 00:45:12.000 It is by no means a prerequisite to getting a job at the USGS. 00:45:13.000 --> 00:45:27.000 Yeah, thanks for stressing that, Steve. I'd also like to highlight one of the things that Steve mentioned during his talks that student internships can be extended beyond that summer period that we initially hired them for that has happened at ESC, it was a mechanism that 00:45:27.000 --> 00:45:40.000 I use to keep students on when I was in my previous life as a research scientist at GHSC, I had students that that stayed on for years beyond, when they were initially hired as long as they were still enrolled as a student. 00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:47.000 So it was a great opportunity. Andy, you have your hand up. 00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:52.000 I wanted to highlight something that Mike put in the chat. 00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:58.000 I seconded, which is, that in the Mendenhall opportunities it's often really valuable 00:45:58.000 --> 00:46:08.000 if while you're a grad student or you have a grad student, you think would fit well here, start talking to potential USGS advisors. 00:46:08.000 --> 00:46:18.000 You know, 2 years out, 3 years out. I was fortunate to get to know Jean Hardebeck while she was still early in her graduate career. 00:46:18.000 --> 00:46:23.000 I was fortunate to get to know Andrea Llenos and also Max Schneider, who you heard from today. 00:46:23.000 --> 00:46:28.000 All of these are people we knew, you know, as they were going through grad school. 00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:35.000 And then we were like about to get out. We're gonna put in a research opportunity and see if we can make this work. 00:46:35.000 --> 00:46:40.000 So that's really valuable. But it is also one of the reasons we put in this candidate- 00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:53.000 driven proposals this year, cause we know that's really an unfair system in many ways. It depends on, you know, prior knowledge and so we're really trying with the candidate-driven proposals to be open to you know people 00:46:53.000 --> 00:46:59.000 we haven't gotten to know and I think that's one thing we really want to try to keep. 00:46:59.000 --> 00:47:03.000 You know what we're gonna keep working at hopefully next year. 00:47:03.000 --> 00:47:17.000 But, if you do know, you're interested, don't hesitate to reach out early on to those targeted opportunities are still going to be very important. 00:47:17.000 --> 00:47:23.000 And I knew some of my advisors way before the Mendenhall proposal, but I was also postdoc. 00:47:23.000 --> 00:47:30.000 So, and then I was, you know I was hanging out around the Survey before that opportunity. 00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:34.000 Thanks. 00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:40.000 Just a tiny note. The one thing hasn't been mentioned is there's a robust volunteer part of the USGS. 00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:44.000 So if you're a student near USGS you have some time, 00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:50.000 you have some interest, reach out, and there may be volunteer opportunities often the Geophysical Survey Group just needs people to do work. 00:47:50.000 --> 00:48:03.000 And so that's it's always useful to just reach out 00:48:03.000 --> 00:48:04.000 Okay, we have about 6 minute left in the session. 00:48:04.000 --> 00:48:21.000 If others have questions for us. Yeah, as Sarah points out, please don't be shy. I'll build on what, Andy just said, and note that one can apply to multiple Mendenhall cycles. 00:48:21.000 --> 00:48:24.000 So you can apply both early, well before you intend to graduate, 00:48:24.000 --> 00:48:54.000 if you're within a year of your intended graduation date, and then subsequently as well. We have in the past had applicants apply to multiple Mendenhall cycles, and sometimes it takes more than one before one gets in. 00:48:54.000 --> 00:49:00.000 I'll take it from everyone's signs that everyone's busy writing down the details of their external grants activities as well, and we'll submit a proposal to our upcoming grant's cycle. 00:49:00.000 --> 00:49:09.000 So I'm looking forward to seeing all of those. 00:49:09.000 --> 00:49:19.000 So I'll just shime in. After the comment about Mendenhall, and and don't be shy. For the graduate research opportunities and for the Mendenhall 00:49:19.000 --> 00:49:28.000 it really pays to have some conversations with USGS scientists you want to work with as you develop those ideas of the research that you want to do. So, 00:49:28.000 --> 00:49:29.000 don't hesitate to reach out 00:49:29.000 --> 00:49:47.000 talk to people when you see Mendenhall opportunity posted reach out to the scientist that's listed there and have a conversation about the work, and if you want to come to USGS for 6 months during your graduate training find a scientist, you want to work with and reach out to them and 00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:50.000 say, hey, can we do something together, here's what I'm thinking 00:49:50.000 --> 00:49:59.000 because that very helpful in being successful in those proposals. 00:49:59.000 --> 00:50:07.000 We have a question from Dave Jackson. Have any of the self-intended projects by applicants growing into bigger USGS projects. Andy just answered it. 00:50:07.000 --> 00:50:09.000 Yeah, this is the first year that we've tried that. 00:50:09.000 --> 00:50:17.000 But certainly we hope that can be an opportunity. 00:50:17.000 --> 00:50:27.000 Last chance for questions, otherwise I'll kick it back to Sarah. 00:50:27.000 --> 00:50:31.000 Okay, bye to you, Sarah. Thanks everyone.